Benson Delay

[jwyles90]

Have no idea what it looks like on the inside/circuit wise, but apparently it’s a pt2399 based delay. I had a chance to play one at a pedal expo a while back and it sounded pretty killer.

Delay — BENSON AMPS

The Benson Delay is finally here!

www.bensonamps.com

 

[sticky1138]

Turns out I won't be reporting back. A few days later and my order got canceled because—get this—the seller physically lost it in their music store lol

Guess I'll just wait until we get the Son of Ben Delay, right?

 

[KR Sound]

I might just have to buy one cause it’s pretty damn cool.

Edit: I bought one

 

[Feral Feline]

I might just have to buy one cause it’s pretty damn cool.

Edit: I bought one

The Benson or the BYOC?

 

[KR Sound]

The Benson or the BYOC?

The Benson. Should have it Monday.

 

[cwsquared]

I got my 82nF cap so the BYOC Echo Royal is my mission this weekend. @Harry Klippton, I will work as fast as my inexperience will let me.

 

[KR Sound]

I’ll have to wait to dive into it later today.

 

[giovanni]

I’ll have to wait to dive into it later today.

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By dive into it do you mean play the hell out of it or open it up and start tracing?

 

[KR Sound]

By dive into it do you mean play the hell out of it or open it up and start tracing?

Maybe both

 

[KR Sound]

 

[Brett]

Well… what do you think of it?

 

[KR Sound]

Well… what do you think of it?

It’s really nice to play with. Sounds clean and there are several different types of sounds to get out of it. I haven’t had time to learn how to get to the waveform and tap division menus yet.

 

[sticky1138]

How does it compare to the other PT2399 competition? In terms of sound, not features

 

[Harry Klippton]

How does it compare to the other PT2399 competition? In terms of sound, not features

This is what I want to know too

 

[cwsquared]

This is what I want to know too

Well, my Echo Royal "works", but sounds like trash. I need to troubleshoot. Every demo I have found so far makes me question my building ability. Mine sounds nowhere close to as clean as them.

 

[Laundryroom David]

Well, my Echo Royal "works", but sounds like trash. I need to troubleshoot. Every demo I have found so far makes me question my building ability. Mine sounds nowhere close to as clean as them.

PT2399 chips are not terribly consistent in my experience. Before you go too far down the rabbit hole, maybe pop a different one in and see if that helps?

 

[giovanni]

PT2399 chips are not terribly consistent in my experience. Before you go too far down the rabbit hole, maybe pop a different one in and see if that helps?

This ^^^. Try several chips and ideally from different sources. I usually buy at least 2X what I need so now I have a good stash to pick the least noisy ones from.

 

[Erik S]

This ^^^. Try several chips and ideally from different sources. I usually buy at least 2X what I need so now I have a good stash to pick the least noisy ones from.

I have a whole bunch of em too, but I still wonder if they're just all bad.

I guess "noisy" is pretty subjective, and dependent on the filtering of whatever they're installed in, but it would be cool to have some kind of bread-board evaluator circuit I could plug them all into and establish a spec to measure them against. I'm not terribly EE literate, but I do have an old analog scope. Maybe I could rig something up... I'm sure Benson is using SMD 2399s for various reasons, but I wonder if those are better. Belton Bricks are just ganged 2399s I think, and I don't hear many complaints about those.

 

[bean]

I'll be interested to see what they did with the compander. Don't see any transistors so maybe all the delay filtering is done right at the PT2399. Or, maybe there's external filtering with one of the ICs.

 

[Laundryroom David]

This ^^^. Try several chips and ideally from different sources. I usually buy at least 2X what I need so now I have a good stash to pick the least noisy ones from.

This is my one exception to the general troubleshooting rule of don’t start swapping components until you know what’s bad lol

 

[KR Sound]

Are smd 2399s more reliable than the through holes?