Cannon Fodder MKII Build Doc

Fair enough. But "coming Soon" on the PCB's page has been there for a while and a search of the forums seems to show it's been missing for a while. But I'm gone from here after the nasty replies on my "Refund" post.
 
Fair enough. But "coming Soon" on the PCB's page has been there for a while and a search of the forums seems to show it's been missing for a while. But I'm gone from here after the nasty replies on my "Refund" post.

You'll not find a more helpful bunch anywhere else on the net than the folks who post in this community.

Whether it's an occasional poster, or a regular forumite — the people here go OUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELP!

I questioned a few people's posts when I first joined, felt I was being attacked (or was I imagining it?) — I've received far more positive experiences that outweigh any perceived negative attitudes. In retrospect, real or imagined "attacks", doesn't even matter because I bucked up and stuck around to see how things work here. Maybe the way this forum operates is unlike other places you may frequent, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work — the system in place works, even if it isn't in the way you're used to or even like.

I read your refund thread and there were but two [Edit: 3] replies from forumites and neither were "nasty". Really. Read them again.


You've been a member since early 2021, but haven't posted much (relatively speaking); There are other DIY forums I only occasionally visit, there's nothing wrong with them per se, they're just not for me but I'm still on them occasionally and they're a great resource even though I'm not as active on them.
So I can understand if PPCB is simply not for you.



I encourage you to stick around, lurk a little more, then decide if you want to leave.
 
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The control layouts are for the most part standardized. Just look through the catalog for another PCB with the same four knob/center switch layout and use that drill template, merging it with a two footswitch drill template. Verify everything with a ruler or calipers and you should be good.

And I agree with the above. This is an overwhelmingly positive board that dishes out knowledge and help at no cost to you, but don't expect to be well received if you show up making public refund demand threads and declaring your ragequit when you don't get the answer you want.
 
You'll not find a more helpful bunch anywhere else on the net than the folks who post in this community.

Whether it's an occasional poster, or a regular forumite — the people here go OUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELP!

I questioned a few people's posts when I first joined, felt I was being attacked (or was I imagining it?) — I've received far more positive experiences that outweigh any perceived negative attitudes. In retrospect, real or imagined "attacks", doesn't even matter because I bucked up and stuck around to see how things work here. Maybe the way this forum operates is unlike other places you may frequent, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work — the system in place works, even if it isn't in the way you're used to or even like.

I read your refund thread and there were but two [Edit: 3] replies from forumites and neither were "nasty". Really. Read them again.


You've been a member since early 2021, but haven't posted much (relatively speaking); There are other DIY forums I only occasionally visit, there's nothing wrong with them per se, they're just not for me but I'm still on them occasionally and they're a great resource even though I'm not as active on them.
So I can understand if PPCB is simply not for you.



I encourage you to stick around, lurk a little more, then decide if you want to leave.
Thanks for the reply. I have earned a bunch here. All I wanted to know really was were we getting a build document. But that post was never getting answered. So, I was half serious about the refund request. But that certainly got some attention. What's so hard about producing a build doc? I can eventually figure out the pedal.
Again, thanks for the reply.
 
What's so hard about producing a build doc?

Nothing. Except it may well be the last step in a thousand-mile journey.

Solder a mile of sockets in Robert's shoes...

He's like a juggler who has too many balls in the air and people here keep on tossing in more things for him to juggle, a chainsaw, a bowling ball, a fiery-hot coal, razor-blades, soap-bubbles and silk tissues... He's just a one-man show, but look at all the side-attractions he has provided us with ... Well over 500 and that's already excluding projects that hit 2 or more categories such as an OD/DIST circuit or an overlapping FV-1/modulation circuit.

He's juggling hats, also ...
  • chief supply officer, ordering the boards from the PCB supplier, managing the inventory of solder and pots and parts in the verification room;
  • the CFO in charge of determining whether somebody's wish-list request is worth the head-of-the-tracing department's time (will enough people order that circuit to make worthwhile the time spent to trace it?);
  • then the tracing has to go to the head layout artist (and I mean artist, the layouts are renowned for their symmetry and standardised (most cases) knob layout — so many 3-knob pedals that can be made from a SINGLE drill template);
  • once the supply officer receives the boards from the PCB-foundry, the solder-jockey has to test and verify the batch is good;
  • at some point, the entire crew needs to be fed and so Robert dons his Chef's toque blanch, before strapping on the chief bottle-washer apron;
  • somebody has to discard all those lead-clippings from the verification room, that would be amongst the head custodian's duties;
  • As CEO, he's gotta manage the sleep deprivation of his team-of-one;
  • Website manager;
  • forum moderator;
  • secretary;
  • quality-control officer;
  • brand-manager;
  • chief advertising executive;
  • morale-officer;
  • mail-room monkey;
  • ...and a host of other shoes or hats to fill, I'm sure.


Oh, and there is also the task of build-reports...
  • researcher
  • head-writer
  • Graphic artist
  • layout artist
  • Graphics editor
  • proof-reader
  • sub-editor
  • editor
  • Editor in Chief
  • ...


I've worked in bike-shops and some customers would come in on a Friday and want their brakes adjusted for their weekend ride. I'd often tell them "It'll be ready on Tuesday or Wednesday after the weekend" — customer would inevitably say something like "Hey, it'll take you 10-minutes tops, I can wait." They'd be half-correct.

The repair would take 10 minutes, but then I'd be behind on 50 other repairs that came in ahead of that impatient customer who couldn't wait his/her turn, 50 other customers all wanting to go for their own weekend ride or daily-commute who'd brought their bikes in earlier in the week...



Anyway. The Cannon Fodder MkII can be built without the build-doc, and there's lots of support here on the forum if it doesn't work — so strictly speaking a build-doc isn't needed, but I'm a stickler for build-docs. If there isn't a build-doc, generally, I'll choose another project that has a build-doc and come back to the project in question once the build-doc is available. I, however, have a plethora of projects with build-docs in the build-queue to choose from and you may not have as many or any other builds pending.

I understand your frustration, though.
 
Nothing. Except it may well be the last step in a thousand-mile journey.

Solder a mile of sockets in Robert's shoes...

He's like a juggler who has too many balls in the air and people here keep on tossing in more things for him to juggle, a chainsaw, a bowling ball, a fiery-hot coal, razor-blades, soap-bubbles and silk tissues... He's just a one-man show, but look at all the side-attractions he has provided us with ... Well over 500 and that's already excluding projects that hit 2 or more categories such as an OD/DIST circuit or an overlapping FV-1/modulation circuit.

He's juggling hats, also ...
  • chief supply officer, ordering the boards from the PCB supplier, managing the inventory of solder and pots and parts in the verification room;
  • the CFO in charge of determining whether somebody's wish-list request is worth the head-of-the-tracing department's time (will enough people order that circuit to make worthwhile the time spent to trace it?);
  • then the tracing has to go to the head layout artist (and I mean artist, the layouts are renowned for their symmetry and standardised (most cases) knob layout — so many 3-knob pedals that can be made from a SINGLE drill template);
  • once the supply officer receives the boards from the PCB-foundry, the solder-jockey has to test and verify the batch is good;
  • at some point, the entire crew needs to be fed and so Robert dons his Chef's toque blanch, before strapping on the chief bottle-washer apron;
  • somebody has to discard all those lead-clippings from the verification room, that would be amongst the head custodian's duties;
  • As CEO, he's gotta manage the sleep deprivation of his team-of-one;
  • Website manager;
  • forum moderator;
  • secretary;
  • quality-control officer;
  • brand-manager;
  • chief advertising executive;
  • morale-officer;
  • mail-room monkey;
  • ...and a host of other shoes or hats to fill, I'm sure.


Oh, and there is also the task of build-reports...
  • researcher
  • head-writer
  • Graphic artist
  • layout artist
  • Graphics editor
  • proof-reader
  • sub-editor
  • editor
  • Editor in Chief
  • ...


I've worked in bike-shops and some customers would come in on a Friday and want their brakes adjusted for their weekend ride. I'd often tell them "It'll be ready on Tuesday or Wednesday after the weekend" — customer would inevitably say something like "Hey, it'll take you 10-minutes tops, I can wait." They'd be half-correct.

The repair would take 10 minutes, but then I'd be behind on 50 other repairs that came in ahead of that impatient customer who couldn't wait his/her turn, 50 other customers all wanting to go for their own weekend ride or daily-commute who'd brought their bikes in earlier in the week...



Anyway. The Cannon Fodder MkII can be built without the build-doc, and there's lots of support here on the forum if it doesn't work — so strictly speaking a build-doc isn't needed, but I'm a stickler for build-docs. If there isn't a build-doc, generally, I'll choose another project that has a build-doc and come back to the project in question once the build-doc is available. I, however, have a plethora of projects with build-docs in the build-queue to choose from and you may not have as many or any other builds pending.

I understand your frustration, though.
I was gonna say, the build docs are pretty pointless until you need the schematic for troubleshooting. Then you can get that just by asking. The way the boards are layed out, you have everything you need. But that horse has been flogged continuously.
 
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