Muffler Noise Gate cleans up Ungula?

Shaggyvs

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Long time forum user, first time posting. I've been loving the build process and PedalPCB has made the whole pedal building process a breeze. Couldn't be happier with their layouts and selection. Brief background: The Muffler was my 14th pedal build, so I'm getting the hang of the build process and soldering best practices. I source all of my parts from Tayda, Mouser, SmallBear, LoveMySwitches, and StompBoxParts.
Anyway, this isn't a complaint, its more of an observation and wanting to understand better what might be going on. I've been using the Ungula pedal paired with an Amentum Boost for a few months now and love the tone. I built the Muffler Noise Gate to clean up the noise and it works great. It doesn't color the sound when I put it after the Greengage Overdrive or Kliche Mini that I've built. However, when I place it after the Ungula, it cleans up the pedal and brightens the tone just like the Amentum Boost does. It actually sounds great, and I was pleasantly surprised, but I don't understand why it would do that to the Ungula but seemingly have no affect on the Kliche or Greengage.
Does this have anything to do with the LM4558 and how it might pair with the components in the Ungula? I purchased this op amp for the Muffler: https://www.taydaelectronics.com/njm4558d-njm4558-4558-ic-dual-op-amp.html
I didn't post any pictures of the build because all pedals work properly, but if anyone thinks it would be beneficial to see them in order to explain, I can post some.

Second question: the gate knob on the Muffler seems to work in reverse from what I would expect - you turn the knob to the left to increase the gate and turn it to the right to decrease the gate. Is this normal? The pedal works great and the knob is mounted on the correct side of the board.
Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read and respond. This community is super helpful, and I'm grateful its available.
 
Ive never used or built either circuit, but I'd bet it is from differences in input/output impedance. Fuzz circuits can be very different sounding depending on what is before and after the unit and most don't like buffers. I'm sure someone will be along who can explain much more very shortly..
 
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