If you're looking for the shoegaze sound, the best verb algos for that are(IMO) Reverse/Inverse, nonlinear/bloom or small plate types. You don't really need huge "spaces" for that sound. At some point, it's too much and is just fizz with no actually notes poking through. For more of the ambient/post rock stuff, adding a post fuzz reverb with a longer decay would be the way to go.
Something else to take into account is (if going for the shoegaze sound) is the drive is often a fuzz type. Depending on the fuzz used, the buffered signal from the verb may cause unwanted issues if it's a fuzz that like to be first in chain/see guitar level impedances.
A low cut can also be beneficial in maintaining some clarity as well.
I'll echo that there's not always a benefit to combo builds vs individual pedals. The caveat is "unless you're doing something specific/unique beyond chaining effects together".
Something like adding a feedback loop or a slapback /oscillating delay out of the fuzz and back into the reverb input.
Or using a Binaura(or other stereo fv-1) and routing left side->drive-> right side with the right side loop switch/stomp/momentary.
*Note, I don't know IF this will work. No idea if the programs work as dual mono or stereo interleaved(¿)
This could cause a feedback loop.
Anyway, point being build something that actually requires the effects be in the same box. If there's no gained functionality, there's nothing gained.
The other case is when the combo is essentially a travel board/dedicated tone. See some of @dan.schumaker combo builds and also the Destiny Behemoth from @jjjimi84. Great board/tone in a box.
Or some of the sonic madness from @DGWVI show off the interpolation of multiple effects with cross board mods and parallel routing.
Anyhow, enough ranting. Don't get stuck with a fuzz/drive circuit you love with a verb that's stuck to it in the wrong point of your chain.
Something else to take into account is (if going for the shoegaze sound) is the drive is often a fuzz type. Depending on the fuzz used, the buffered signal from the verb may cause unwanted issues if it's a fuzz that like to be first in chain/see guitar level impedances.
A low cut can also be beneficial in maintaining some clarity as well.
I'll echo that there's not always a benefit to combo builds vs individual pedals. The caveat is "unless you're doing something specific/unique beyond chaining effects together".
Something like adding a feedback loop or a slapback /oscillating delay out of the fuzz and back into the reverb input.
Or using a Binaura(or other stereo fv-1) and routing left side->drive-> right side with the right side loop switch/stomp/momentary.
*Note, I don't know IF this will work. No idea if the programs work as dual mono or stereo interleaved(¿)
This could cause a feedback loop.
Anyway, point being build something that actually requires the effects be in the same box. If there's no gained functionality, there's nothing gained.
The other case is when the combo is essentially a travel board/dedicated tone. See some of @dan.schumaker combo builds and also the Destiny Behemoth from @jjjimi84. Great board/tone in a box.
Or some of the sonic madness from @DGWVI show off the interpolation of multiple effects with cross board mods and parallel routing.
Anyhow, enough ranting. Don't get stuck with a fuzz/drive circuit you love with a verb that's stuck to it in the wrong point of your chain.
