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i’ve just used the stock cabs but have been reading (skimming) creating my own samples, maybe sometime in the future.
IRs who used them and what do you use?
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Harry Klippton
Not Interested
I feel this. I'm gonna try @szukalski advice and see if I can get it to stop showing me all the other nonsense
SillyOctpuss
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I bought a Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp last month and I’m absolutely hooked. I use the Matchless 212 from York and it sounds excellent. I’m probably going to try out a few more IR packs from York too.
Also don’t sleep on the Ampero stomp if you’re looking at modelers. It’s absolutely killer.
Also don’t sleep on the Ampero stomp if you’re looking at modelers. It’s absolutely killer.
SillyOctpuss
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Have you tried running analogue pedals into the ampero? That's one of the things I love about helix is how well it takes pedals. Also good choice on the YA Matchless pack it's really special and much better than the stock cab in the helix. Do you use single mics or one of the mixes? I tend to stay on the greenback mixes myself.
Harry Klippton
Not Interested
Well fuck me now I'm looking at York audio IRs
I know the line 6 stuff takes pedals well and I was a little nervous about the Ampero but I can say that is absolutely great at taking pedals. I run my electrovibe, delegate, Tyrian, protein dual and a dung beetle into the front and have my Meris Enzo, Specular Tempus and keeley hydra in the effects loop. It handles all of that really well.
The onboard effects on the Ampero are pretty good too actually. Probably not as good as like 6 but I have so many pedals I don’t care as much. Also it has a bit more DSP than the hx stomp which is nice for running dual amp stereo setups. It really excels at the amp modeling. It’s making me want a Bad Cat Hot Cat really badly. I mainly run those two sims (clean and drive) through the celestial IRs that come with the Ampero. My other favorite setup is the DC30 sim with the York IR.
It also allows you to do preamp and lower amp blocks which is pretty neat for trying to emulate that power tube sound. I have a really nice matchless preset with that setup that sounds just insane with my Specular Tempus for clean ambient stuff.
The unsung hero of my board is my electrovibe though. I turn the intensity off and run it in vibrato mode and it’s like instant tone sweetener.
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Ah sorry I didn’t answer the mic question. I mostly use the sm57 royer 121 mix with the dual speaker cab
Bricksnbeatles
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Any of y’all use IRs for instrument modeling? I know it’s pretty common to use IRs of antique violins on a solidbody electric violin, and it’s pretty damn convincing. I wonder if using IRs of a nice acoustic would work better than the typical cheap sounding Acoustic Simulator pedals for getting a passable acoustic sound from a piezo output
God I sound like such an Ampero shill but they have acoustic sim presets with IRs for different acoustic bodies and I find them to sound pretty great. Probably best in a mix bit alone I don’t think it’s gonna measure up to the real thing
SillyOctpuss
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I was literally playing with that earlier tonight. I downloaded a few IRs from http://acousticir.free.fr/
and was playing around with some pretty mixed results. I'm going to keep working and see if I can get anything usable. I have a homecoming gig in a few weeks and would rather play electric all night and leave my acoustic at home.
Paradox916
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I have been a sole headphone player for a number of years, and I have been running the same Ownhammer and Catharsis IRs for awhile I have been getting a little bored with them, someone ( he who shall not be named rhymes with “Da Schminter Smoldger” recently sent me a couple legit Celestion IRs to try out. I’m pretty stoked to give them a go.
szukalski
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Totally agree there. Amplitube is another culprit here. The amount of stuff available which I don't own makes the entire user experience piss poor.
That was my approach as well, overwhelmed at the start and just wanting to get something which sounds good.
SillyOctpuss
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I much prefer line 6s current business model to ik multimedia. The sheer amount of stuff they've added to Helix since I bought one is mind boggling. Most other companies and even line 6 back in the day would have been trying to charge me for most of those. Guys who bought a helix back in 2015 have had phenomenal customer support.
SillyOctpuss
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Me too. I bought an ownhammer pack first and ended up with extreme option paralysis. Now when I buy a new pack I flip through the Mix folder and pick out a few I like and drop them in my Helix. Job done. I also edit the titles so I know which mics I've used. It wasn't until I renamed them that I realised I preferred the 160 ribbon and SM7 mics in the York audio packs.
jeffwhitfield
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I have a two-channel pedalboard that consists of an HX Stomp on one channel and a Boss IR-200 on the other.
For the HX Stomp, I have found that the stock cabinets really work well. Unlike an IR, the Helix cabs have a lot of different parameters so you can tweak the hell out of them to get different tones. You can still load IR's though...which works really well with the HX Stomp. I do load a few IR's for different purposes...mainly so I can get a particular sound out of a particular amp model (ie. make a Fender Reverb sound like a particular model).
For the IR-200, it's better to use custom IR's over the stock ones. The amp models are quite different than the Helix. Not as varied per se but with the EQ and other parameters you can really dial in what you're looking for with them. Add on some IR's and it's a winning combination.
For IR's themselves, I've tried out quite a few. Problem I found is that it's hard to try out different ones without the whole process of syncing them to the device and then clicking through each of them one at a time. So I got a good IR loader app, specifically mixIR3 by Redwirez. On top of that, I got the complete Redwirez library as well. Granted, there are other libraries that are probably better but these are still really good. Combined with mixIR3, I'll run the HX Stomp or IR-200 to my computer without the IR part enabled. From there, I run it into mixIR3 to try out different IR's. Makes the whole process much, much easier.
For the HX Stomp, I have found that the stock cabinets really work well. Unlike an IR, the Helix cabs have a lot of different parameters so you can tweak the hell out of them to get different tones. You can still load IR's though...which works really well with the HX Stomp. I do load a few IR's for different purposes...mainly so I can get a particular sound out of a particular amp model (ie. make a Fender Reverb sound like a particular model).
For the IR-200, it's better to use custom IR's over the stock ones. The amp models are quite different than the Helix. Not as varied per se but with the EQ and other parameters you can really dial in what you're looking for with them. Add on some IR's and it's a winning combination.
For IR's themselves, I've tried out quite a few. Problem I found is that it's hard to try out different ones without the whole process of syncing them to the device and then clicking through each of them one at a time. So I got a good IR loader app, specifically mixIR3 by Redwirez. On top of that, I got the complete Redwirez library as well. Granted, there are other libraries that are probably better but these are still really good. Combined with mixIR3, I'll run the HX Stomp or IR-200 to my computer without the IR part enabled. From there, I run it into mixIR3 to try out different IR's. Makes the whole process much, much easier.
SillyOctpuss
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I've been close to buying mixIR3 so I can make my own custom blends of two different IRs to save DSP and blocks in my stomp. I really must sort that out. I'd also love to be able to capture an IR of the Princess cab from Helix. I really love the stock 10" Princeton cab and often mix it with a York audio IR. Being able to mix them both into one custom IR would be ideal of I could capture the princess cab on its stock setting.
jeffwhitfield
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Out of all the IR software solutions I looked at, it just seemed like mixIR3 was the easiest and most straight-forward solution. Granted, it works best with Redwirez own libraries but, technically, you can load other people's IR's in if you want as well.
Harry Klippton
Not Interested
I've been a little occupied the last few weeks but now I'm back to using the Cab M and trying to make sense of stuff. I'm finding that with the two notes virtual cabinets, I'm getting some high frequency distortion that's really unpleasant. It could be my admittedly shit tier headphones, or it might be some parameter that I have neglected to adjust. It's worse on some cabs than others. I'm not much of a tweaker. I'm much more interested in plug and play
szukalski
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Might have a level issue? Also, make sure the pre/post amps aren’t on. I also like a HPF with IRs, but that’s me.