Median Compressor clipping issue

bidurgi999

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I built the Median Compressor from PedalPCB. Everything else works fine, but there’s one problem.

When I play chords or pick hard, a crackling noise occurs, as if the signal is clipping. Even when I turn down the trimmer, the noise still happens.

I set the Q2 bias to 1.85V and I’m using an OPA2134.

If I pick lightly or roll down the guitar volume to about 7, the noise disappears.
Does this confirm that it’s definitely a clipping issue?
If so, what would be the best way to fix it?
 
Are you going directly into the compressor with your guitar, or do you run a booster or something in front of it? Active pickups or passive? Can you record the noise so we get a better idea?
 
네, 좋지 않은 것 같네요. 블렌드 노브를 반시계 방향으로 돌리면 같은 결과가 나오나요?
모든 노브는 12시 방향으로 설정되어 있으며, 블렌드 노브를 조정해도 같은 결과가 나옵니다.
다른 모든 것은 정상적으로 작동합니다. 납땜 문제일 수 있을까요?
 
Could be. Or maybe a broken opamp. If you socketed the opamps that's probably easiest to try. If you have some other opamp lying around, like a TL072, just try it out if replacing any of the OPAs has a positive effect.

Finding a potentially bad soldering joint is trickier. Probably best to step through the circuit with an audio probe first to find where the clipping is introduced.
 
You wrote that it doesn't matter what position the blend knob is in. Then I reckon the problem should be somewhere around the input or the output.
 
Could be. Or maybe a broken opamp. If you socketed the opamps that's probably easiest to try. If you have some other opamp lying around, like a TL072, just try it out if replacing any of the OPAs has a positive effect.

Finding a potentially bad soldering joint is trickier. Probably best to step through the circuit with an audio probe first to find where the clipping is introduced.
Since the same problem occurs even after replacing the op-amp, I guess I’ll have to look for another solution.

Thank you for your kind response. Have a great day!
 
I also built one recently, also biased it to 1.857V. With single coils everything is fine but with humbuckers I also get clipping (depending on how high the attack knob is set)
 
The same clipping that bidurgi999 documented in the attached recording? If not probably best to open a new topic if needed.
 
Good to know, thanks.

Yesterday evening I replaced the four OPA1678 opamps in my Median with four TL072. I wanted to see if with a simple opamp-change I could reproduce the clipping noise from the recording. I tried with two different humbucker guitars, also switched the buffer on the tuner in front on and off. I couldn't get the pedal to clip, it was fine.

 
I used a Gibson bridge humbucker, and there’s a Polytune tuner between the guitar and the compressor.
I’ll attach a sound file as well.
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Good to know, thanks.

Yesterday evening I replaced the four OPA1678 opamps in my Median with four TL072. I wanted to see if with a simple opamp-change I could reproduce the clipping noise from the recording. I tried with two different humbucker guitars, also switched the buffer on the tuner in front on and off. I couldn't get the pedal to clip, it was fine.

I have just stumbled upon this thread looking for the specs info of the Median compressor. I wanted to try an 1176 pedal, but first I purchased the Warm Audio Pedal 76 FET, just to make sure I have a high quality reference. Then my plan was to build the Median, compare, and if they are on par, I sell the expensive Warm Audio and keep the Median.

Interestingly, the Warm Audio pedal produces very similar clipping that Bidurgi posted. The only difference is that it is less articulated. But it's the same grainy distortion. It happens when the Attack is at the fastest (20microsec.) setting. If you turn it more up to be slower, it disappears after a while. I assume it is some kind of clipping, because when the attack is on 20 microsec, and the release is turned up to be the slowest, when you strum a chord, there is 1 little clip when you strum, and then the release holds the compression and no more clipping. When the release is fast, I guess what happens is that the level returns to normal periodically, and every time the fast attack clamps down again, the clipping occurs, and what you hear is a series of pops happening fast.

You can listen to the problem in this video. Listen with headphones, and turn the volume up to hear the graininess properly:


Just some additional thought: I have been doing research on the distortions in compressors and choruses, and I found the same problem: with humbuckers these pedals tend to do various type of annoying distortion. We measured some guitars, like the Schecter Omen Extreme with Diamond Plus pickups, and got the result that it's Vpp is over 3V. My cheap chinese guitar is the same. That is over the limit of the input Vpp tolerance of many pedals. Then I noticed that as you advance lower on the neck while picking (towards the 24th fret), some guitars start sounding louder in that direction. If the humbucker guitar is like that, that creates even bigger problems. I found many pedals have not this considered in their design. Their voltage operation limits are very tight, and if the dynamics of th notes on the guitar moves on a wide range, it will also result in distortion, no matter if you turn down input volume on the pedal, or turn down the volume knob on the guitar. I assume, here, a similar problem might be present. The Median and the Warm audio might have a tight limit , and when me or Bidugri strums the chords strongly, the dynamics go over the limit and clipping occurs. But maybe I am wrong. Anyhow, this behavior does not suprise me. Actually out of many pedals I only found 2 that can handle humbuckers perfectly.
 
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