Discussion: Potential Tone3000 Plugin Mod - DaisySeed Loader

fav13andacdc

fav13andacdc

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Hi All,

To avoid title-baiting, I tried to make the purpose of the thread clear.

For those unaware, about a week ago, Tone3000 released an official plugin. Thankfully, they also made this plugin open source.
github.com

GitHub - tone-3000/tone3000-plugin: TONE3000 plugin

TONE3000 plugin. Contribute to tone-3000/tone3000-plugin development by creating an account on GitHub.
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I think the layout is super slick and convenient. The ability to pull models directly from Tone3000 and set up a signal chain preset is very cool. But what if I wanted to put a preset onto my Terrarium? So, thinking about it a bit, I decided to set up a proof of concept.

Today, using DaisySeedProjects (https://github.com/bkshepherd/DaisySeedProjects/tree/main), Tone3000.com and the DaisyBootloader, it takes several steps to load a NAM capture onto your Daisy pedal (assuming you have the proper effect modules selected before compiling)

1. Run a python script to transform .nam JSON into a C++ float array.
2. Plug this into your model_data_nam_a2.h file
3. Run make -j4 into your guitarpedal.bin
4. Upload bootloader firmware to Daisy
5. Flash DaisySeed.

So far, I've been able to combine all of these steps. You find a tone preset you're happy with in Tone3000. You choose your DaisyPedal of choice (125b, 1590b, funbox, terrarium, etc) with a custom dropdown. You click an Upload to Daisy button. The .nam JSON is transformed, put into a preset file, .bin file generated, bootloader firmware added, DaisySeed flashed. Then you disconnect the DaisySeed and go play guitar. It's a little buggy at the moment, but I'm confident I can get it in a better state and with more features added (Stereo?). And with "Spaces" becoming more of a thing in Tone3000, it might also be a decent solve for reverb.

While I'm really excited about the potential, my question is if anyone else would be interested in a Github release for this? It obviously is going to be a niche market. Tone3000 plugin users x DaisySeed pedal users? There must be dozens of us! :ROFLMAO:
 
I think that without an ESP or SD card the bkshep, terrarium, hothouse, funbox, etc won't get much more user friendly for NAM unfortunately. I see new pedal project variants popping up weekly it seems though, so it is only a matter of time.

It is just a bit clunky to need to do it at compile time (although perfectly fine for many peoples needs I am guessing).

If you want to dabble with all different tones to find the exact one you want, I find a DAW and/or computer to be a better option personally. Then once you have settled on something, flashing it one-ish time. This also might just be making up for the initial point of no SD card or esp microcontroller.
 
xconverge said:
I think that without an ESP or SD card the bkshep, terrarium, hothouse, funbox, etc won't get much more user friendly for NAM unfortunately. I see new pedal project variants popping up weekly it seems though, so it is only a matter of time.

It is just a bit clunky to need to do it at compile time (although perfectly fine for many peoples needs I am guessing).

If you want to dabble with all different tones to find the exact one you want, I find a DAW and/or computer to be a better option personally. Then once you have settled on something, flashing it one-ish time. This also might just be making up for the initial point of no SD card or esp microcontroller.
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Man an ESP microcontroller on a DIY DSP pedal would be cool!

I think the way you built the NAM A2 support into DaisySeedProjects is genius! Who I'm thinking about is the code-ignorant people like me (flying by the seat of my pants over here!) not easily being able to understand the steps to get to the end state: which is playing guitar. Just seeing if the desire exists to make it a tiny bit more accessible. There is a very real possibility that almost everyone that builds a terrarium is willing to put in the work to learn how the sausage is made and/or has access to a decent LLM, which is why I'm asking the question.

The mod of Tone3000 I'm working on currently runs as a program on my Mac. It detects the daisy in DFU mode, then sets the array (with the code you built!), compiles, locally uploads the bootloader firmware, and flashes the Daisy.
 
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