Aion Redschift / Madbean Kezuroukai24 - selfmade pcb - issues

fontoponto

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Hi guys,
I made a pcb for a phaser based on Whetstone/Redshift/Kezuroukai24 and of course it is not working.
My schematic is attached. It's the Aion Redshift with a reduced rate selection a bit like Madbeans but not exactly.

Issues:
- VB is too low, 2.55V should be 3.58V according to the resistors and input voltage
- no modulation noticable
- signal comming out of the LM13700 is very low in volume

The first thing that I need to take care of is VB.
These are 15K and 10K, correct? The part values in general are fine...

IMG_6972.jpg

I compared the voltages mentioned in Madbeans pdf to mine. Any hint, why VB is so low?


My OneSpot 9.47V / MB OneSpot 9.42V
9.18V Input PCB (PCB is connected on PedalPCB Protoboard)

VA 8.95V / Aion VA / MB VC 9.17V -> no VA in MB pcb
VC 8.87V / Aion VC / MB VC 9.17V
VB 2.55V / Aion VB / MB VB 4.54V

2n5088q1q1
c38.968.55
b22.454.26
e12.163.95
2n5087q2q2
c32.15-02.177.58 -> mine starts at ~2.2 then down to 2.15
b28.968.55
e18.959.17
2n7000q3q3
d34.667.43
g22.263.49
s10.8251.69
2n5087q4q5
c35.7 - 7.3~6.5
b25.0 - 7.36.5
e15.6 - 7.36.8
2n5087q5q4
c35.0 - 7.36.5
b24.8 - 7.3varies
e15.6 - 7.36.8
2n5088q6q6
c38.879.16
b22.3-2.5varies
e11.78-1.91.79
2n5088q7q7
c34.9-7.3varies
b21.78-1.91.79
e11.22-1.37~1.2


u1 LM13700
My pinsVoltageMB pinsvoltage
11.22-1.3316~1.2
20.72-
32.56144.63
42.55134.45
53.7125.46
6-060
73.7105.66
82.5694.53
92.5684.53
103.775.65
11+8.9119.18
123.755.65
132.5644.54
142.5534.54
150.715-
161.22-1.331~1.2

u2 LM13700
My pinsVoltageMB pinsvoltage
11.22-1.3316~1.2
20.94-0.992-
32.55144.63
42.44134.54
50.38-0.46125.67
6-0.75-0.8460
70.35-0.43105.66
80.6594.53
91.084.53
101.37-1.4275.65
11+8.9119.18
121.44-1.5055.65
132.544.45
142.5534.45
150.92-0.9815-
161.21-1.321~1.2

u3 LM13700
My pinsVoltageMB pinsvoltage
11.016~1.2
21.2-1.7
34.9-7.314~6.5
45.0-7.213~6.5
52.2-2.4712~2.3
6-60
70.1
81.8
9
10
11+8.9119.18
12
13
14
15
16
 

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When I remove the LM13700 VB drops to 1.99V !?
There is no connection from VB to any other connection (continuity tester).
The pads have been resoldered to avoid bridges between pads. I do that everytime but did it again.
I forgot th pictures yesterday.
IMG_6991.jpg IMG_6992.jpg IMG_6995.jpg IMG_6994.jpg
You might notice the missing trimmer. I accidentally killed it with my soldering iron. No impact on VB. i already installed a new one.
The volume pot is supposed to look like this because the pins are mirrored.
The socket of U3 is also soldered in the wrong direction but the IC was correctly inserted.
 
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When everything is put in the sockets except for Q6 & Q7 then VB also drops.
I desoldered parts I added parts, still the same result. It must be some really small stupid error I made...
 
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