Now that the Honeymoon is over, the Vintage 30 is not for me, it has a mid range honk that I dont like.
Lucky for me, a Chap in the next state had a Creamback 65 up for sale at a price I can sell my V30 for!
To be Continued!
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Lucky for me, a Chap in the next state had a Creamback 65 up for sale at a price I can sell my V30 for!
To be Continued!
hamerfan
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I gave the V30 a run, too. Unpleasent harsh and middy. I happily live with a vintage G12-65 now.
I have both sitting here at the moment. Love the g12-65 for modern tones (jcm800 etc),
As for v30, not all are created equal. I personally LOVE the ones that are custom made for Mesa, as they tend to not have the shrill ice picky high end that some v30s have, but still retain the v30 “honk”.
hamerfan
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A friend played a WGS Veteran with a WGS Retro in 2x12 cab. The Veteran is also a lot smoother, but with the same mid push.
Is Warehouse getting celestions private labeled (like Avatar does with their “HELLATONES”), or are they getting someone like Eminence or other offshore builder making speakers that are loose copies of Celestion etc?
hamerfan
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They have their on facility in Paducah, KY. This was also the home of the CTS company and other manufacturers. Read here:
The WGS Legacy
WGS® is a speaker manufacturer based in Paducah, Kentucky, a small town with a large history in speaker production. This includes the original CTS company, Credence Speakers, Voice Coil Communication, and Hawley Products - the oldest paper cone manufacturer in the world. In 2006, WGS began...
wgsusa.com
Interesting! I believe Eminence is also in Kentucky Who wouldda thunk the heart of Appalachia would be the heart of all speaker manufacturing in the US!They have their on facility in Paducah, KY. This was also the home of the CTS company and other manufacturers. Read here:
The WGS Legacy
WGS® is a speaker manufacturer based in Paducah, Kentucky, a small town with a large history in speaker production. This includes the original CTS company, Credence Speakers, Voice Coil Communication, and Hawley Products - the oldest paper cone manufacturer in the world. In 2006, WGS began...
My second question would be how good are they? Do they live up to all of the internet hype (I know most of the hype around some of the newer eminence offerings left a bit to be desired.
I’m definitely interested in the Veteran 30 and ET65 combo. I have both a vintage 30 and g12-65 here in 1x12 cabs I’m going to sell. Love them both equally for both plexi circuits as well as JCM800 and higher gain… just wish I could use them together (sensitivity too far off to match right), but the WGS equivalents look to pair off better. And since I’m no longer playing out, I’ll gladly get a bigger cab since it won’t be moved once in place, and WGS may be my go to speakers if they deliver what they promise. Price is nice as well!
There is a stockist in Australia that have them but they end up being dearer than the Celestions that they are emulating.
hamerfan
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What a let down. But you compare US made wgs with china made Celestions pricewise, i guess.
The Celestion Creambacks are made in the UK & are cheaper than a WGS.
It's like you love your Gibsons , In Australia, the Celestions are number1!
Well, I'm really enjoying the Creamback G12M 65 & it aint broken in yet & it's 15 ounces lighter than the 50 ounce Magnet in the Honky V30!
If you were a few thousand miles closer, I’d let you try a Mesa version of the Celestion vintage 30 (apparently Mesa has them custom built, and they do tend to have all the things we like about V3, but without the harsh top), or a Celestion G12-65 - similar to the g12t75, but a touch more Celestion sounding. These were the speakers Marshall used during the JMP-JCM transition in the late 70s/very early 80s.
