Nobels ODR1 vs Wampler Belle

[falco_femoralis]

I'm talking to a guy about building him an ODR1 and he mentioned he likes the Wampler Belle as well. I've never really gotten into Wampler pedals, so I'm not really sure about the difference, but there is a 4th knob and maybe more gain? I'm thinking I could take a Nobelman board and do some component substitutions and come up with a Belle approximation, but I'm not sure where to start. Any ideas?

 

[pbrommer]

I think, from discussions here and gleanings from the internet, is that Wampler tends to just have a dedicated bass control that works with the circuit.

Maybe look at the ODR-C and its low cut control? Personally, the odr-c is really damn good.

 

[jessenator]

The madbean laureate jr is an ODR-1 with bass rolloff. Good circuit.

 

[pbrommer]

I knew I saw it somewhere, I just couldn’t remember where.

 

[MattG]

The Aion Andromeda also has a bass cut knob. It's a simple Timmy-style bass cut. I built this many years ago, so take this with a huge grain of salt, but I felt it sounded a bit thin when more than the smallest amount of bass was dialed back. The Andromeda Deluxe is a clone of the Nordland ODR-C, which has a more sophisticated bass cut (as well as a mid control and the ODC knob). I did a build with a custom PCB which is essentially the ODR-1 with the bass cut borrowed from the ODR-C.

 

[Laundryroom David]

I built the laureate a while back; have a look at it if you want -
Thread 'MBP Laureate'
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/mbp-laureate.16850/

 

[MattG]

I built the laureate a while back; have a look at it if you want -
Thread 'MBP Laureate'
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/mbp-laureate.16850/

The Laureate Jr uses the bass cut from the ODR-C as well. That's a better way to do bass cut in this circuit IMO.

Edit: looks like the older Laureate, from the "Professional Series", actually used a Timmy-style of bass cut, like Aion's non-deluxe Andromeda. It doesn't appear that the older (Pro Series) Laureate is available; here's the build doc. So @Laundryroom David's build has what I consider the "lesser" bass cut implementation.

It's the newer Laureate Jr that has the ODR-C-style bass cut; see the build doc.

 

[falco_femoralis]

The Aion Andromeda also has a bass cut knob. It's a simple Timmy-style bass cut. I built this many years ago, so take this with a huge grain of salt, but I felt it sounded a bit thin when more than the smallest amount of bass was dialed back. The Andromeda Deluxe is a clone of the Nordland ODR-C, which has a more sophisticated bass cut (as well as a mid control and the ODC knob). I did a build with a custom PCB which is essentially the ODR-1 with the bass cut borrowed from the ODR-C.

This customer wants a Paisley Drive & ODR1 w/bass control in a vertical 1590bb as a combo pedal. Additionally, he also wants an AT+ in a vertical 1590bb so I think it'd be a fun challenge to make a custom PCB that can be populated for either setup. Given the ample space inside a 1590bb I think it's doable, and perhaps easier than squishing two PCB's in a vertical 1590bb

 

[Laundryroom David]

The Laureate Jr uses the bass cut from the ODR-C as well. That's a better way to do bass cut in this circuit IMO.

Edit: looks like the older Laureate, from the "Professional Series", actually used a Timmy-style of bass cut, like Aion's non-deluxe Andromeda. It doesn't appear that the older (Pro Series) Laureate is available; here's the build doc. So @Laundryroom David's build has what I consider the "lesser" bass cut implementation.

It's the newer Laureate Jr that has the ODR-C-style bass cut; see the build doc.

10-4

 

[falco_femoralis]

I exceeded the 300 pin limit with my free version of Diptrace so I'm back to squeezing two boards in one enclosure. I purchased a nobleman so I can combine shipping costs and will do some point to point stuff to add the bass cut control.