Wrecking Ball - more gain?

Bumfluff101

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I've just built the wrecking ball and whilst I thought it went together quite easily I'm only able to get overdrive sounds out of it rather than a mega lead tone. I can achieve it if I boost it with a lightspeed but I was wondering if this is normal and if not how best to trouble shoot it without blowing my brains out with some high voltage?!

I'm using 3 x 12AX7 tubes and a separate 9v 1a power brick.
I tested the tubes (as best I could) with a DMM before putting them in and they seemed to be ok.
 
Alright, so a couple things for starters:
  • 1A @ 9V is plenty to get the tubes warmed up and the circuit running
  • testing tubes with a DMM will tell you almost nothing
  • any modifications to the circuit should be done with the power off, so the risk of electric shock will be minimal
Regarding increasing the gain, there are a couple things that can be done. The easiest will be to get high gain tubes. The main spec you need to worry about is amplification factor, represented in datasheets as µ. 12AX7 on paper has a µ of 100, making it the highest gain tube of that series, but the manufacturing tolerance of tubes varies widely, and it's not uncommon to see brand new "good" tubes with a µ of 80, I've seen some brands (most notable Psvane) as low as 70 in a 12AX7. Unfortunately the only way to measure this is with a "curve" type tube tester like the uTracer, otherwise you can go to tube distributors like Tube Depot and request tubes specifically tested for high gain.

Now as far as circuit modification itself, there are a few things you can try, but I will preface this by saying that you will eventually get to the point where the physical dimensions of the PCB are too small for the amount of gain, and the circuit will oscillate. I have this one in a good place where the gain is high enough to be useful, but not so high that it oscillates, so if you're testing your modified circuit and it starts squealing with the gain turned up high, you've gone too far.

That being said, here are a few places you can start for increasing gain:
  • decrease the value of R11, 1MΩ is a good starting point
  • decrease the value of R6, 220kΩ is a good starting point
  • decrease the value of R5, 100kΩ is a good starting point
  • increase the value of R3, 220kΩ is a good starting point
  • increase the value of R4, 220kΩ is a good starting point
These are all theoretical modifications that have not been tested, and the starting point values are not based on anything other than me saying "yeah that's probably fine" inside my head. I wouldn't recommend going any higher than 330kΩ for plate resistors (R3 and R4) or lower than 56kΩ for the interstage resistors (R5, R6, and R11).

I will of course emphasize that you should keep your fingers out of the box when power is applied, and for this reason "guess and check" is going to be a more recommended option that swapping any of these out for a trimpot. Socketing the resistors for easy swap would be fine, but make sure the resistor leads are not going to touch anything else when they're sticking out of the socket (particularly R3 and R4).



Alternatively, you could put a simple boost like a LPB-1 in front of the pedal.
 
I've just built the wrecking ball and whilst I thought it went together quite easily I'm only able to get overdrive sounds out of it rather than a mega lead tone. I can achieve it if I boost it with a lightspeed but I was wondering if this is normal and if not how best to trouble shoot it without blowing my brains out with some high voltage?!

I'm using 3 x 12AX7 tubes and a separate 9v 1a power brick.
I tested the tubes (as best I could) with a DMM before putting them in and they seemed to be ok.
Detailed pictures of both sides of the board helps immensely when asking for help troubleshooting. I use it with single coils and it's a creamy lead / chunky rhythm all day long.
 
If you do mod it for more gain just keep in mind that next time you swap tubes the new tubes might be hotter and might send the pedal into oscillation, Try to find the limit and then back off a bit would be the best approach I think.
And as always, please share what you find so the rest of us solder sniffers know where we can safely go.
Cheers
Mick
 
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