SillyOctpuss
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It probably sounded great in the room and whoever was recording it didn't mic it up properly or some other issue with the recording.
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It probably sounded great in the room and whoever was recording it didn't mic it up properly or some other issue with the recording.
ICTRock
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That fair because a lot of why people hate him is "inside baseball" within the DIY pedal community. The only public dustup he's ever really been in came from some affiliation with a questionable religious group and he actually handled that pretty well.
He's kind of a scum fuck within the DIY community. He got his start there and he at least somewhat acknowledges that. He took liberties he shouldn't have with other boutique companies designs and DIYers out there when he was first getting going. He's taken undue credit for designs that weren't his both back then and today. He's gone so far as to try to cost other boutique companies their distributor relationships when they called him out for it. Feel free to look any of that up if it sounds too much to believe. FSB kept the receipts.
That said, he's had ample opportunity to do right. He's certainly built himself a nearly bulletproof infomercial empire on YouTube. He could afford the hit if not come out better on the other side by addressing any of that with a dose of humility. He thus far hasn't and I wouldn't expect that he would because what he's currently doing is working for him.
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Coda
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Locrian99
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I am the lizard queen and I can do do anything.
damianvila
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Oh! Ok. Thanks! I guess I need to do some forum digging to understand what happened (not that I don’t believe what you’re saying, but I always prefer to have a first hand perspective of things to judge by myself).
The religious thing, I heard something about it, though I was not sure what group exactly it was. I tend to be a bit lenient with people and their beliefs, because, as an atheist, all religious people are too religious for me…
So in the end, my policy is to let people believe what they want, and not judge them for that, or question what they believe (and I ask the same for me).Thanks for the info!
RetiredUnit1
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damianvila
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Ok, found the thread. That was an interesting read, with quite a few weird moments. After the uproar and the flying of punches, it looks like things ended in nothing? Or I’m mistaken? Lawsuits are mentioned, but it looks like nothing happened in that regard. Just a lot of people pissed off, and that’s it, right?
No satisfying conclusion, it seems.
Mentaltossflycoon
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KR Sound
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How have I never heard that before? That’s awesome.
Locrian99
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I keep telling myself there was something else wrong !
The switch was for sure broke when I got it at least.
scheffehcs
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I have a relevant story that’s a bit embarrassing… I was browsing Reverb and saw a Montreal Assembly - Count to Five that was listed at $200 with a broken toggle switch. I was like… holy shit, those are $300 new! I can fix a toggle switch! So I went and bought it.
I didn’t know much about the pedal, but I was excited to give it a shot. Later that night I was on reddit and saw a post about Count to Five prices… weird. I clicked and the post was complaining about how people were paying crazy prices for these things lately. Nice! The top comment was something along the lines of “I saw a broken Count to Five go for $200 today on Reverb, wtf. Just wait a couple months till they produce more, they only cost $200 new!”
Fuck.
Anyway I fixed it and traded it for a Whammy 5, so I’m cool with it. Pretty dumb move though haha.
I didn’t know much about the pedal, but I was excited to give it a shot. Later that night I was on reddit and saw a post about Count to Five prices… weird. I clicked and the post was complaining about how people were paying crazy prices for these things lately. Nice! The top comment was something along the lines of “I saw a broken Count to Five go for $200 today on Reverb, wtf. Just wait a couple months till they produce more, they only cost $200 new!”
Fuck.
Anyway I fixed it and traded it for a Whammy 5, so I’m cool with it. Pretty dumb move though haha.
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ICTRock
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There's not really any heroes or sympathetic victims in this one. Devi Ever ended up being the dumpster fire to his flaming bag of shit in the long run. It all still happened and they're all still awful people doing awful things. It isn't changing my brand of beer or when my alarm clock goes off in the morning.
I don't really care if you buy his stuff ... people seem to see the value in it. I find visiting the originals of the ideas he recycles is the more rewarding experience.
damianvila
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@Mentaltossflycoon This is what I see here for that video:
(That's the Spanish card for "video not available") I need to go to YT to see what it is about.
Edit: Oh! That's cool.
(I love the pedal taped to the guitar).
(That's the Spanish card for "video not available") I need to go to YT to see what it is about.
Edit: Oh! That's cool.
(I love the pedal taped to the guitar).
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damianvila
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Don't get me wrong, I think that what Josh did was bad. He could've handed that better, and avoided a lot of the problems. But legally, nothing could be done about it, it seems, because anybody can copy a circuit, and there's no legal protection for that. As long as you're not using somebody else's brands, or trying to pass you product as someone else's (and I think that was not the case here), there's no legal base to punish a copied circuit. It's more of a moral issue than anything. If Josh had been open about what he was doing, things could've been a bit different, but I guess that wouldn't have solved the problem, as what transpires to me from that thread is that Devi was really hurt that Josh was more successful selling her circuit than she was.
But that's the thing, the guy is good at marketing and selling his pedals. One thing I learned is that a big part of the success of a product is marketing, either you like it or not. There are people that are great with marketing, even if their product is nothing special. And I understand the frustration of seeing someone selling something you made, while you barely sell your original ones. But that's marketing, plain an simple. And also the ability to grow a business, that's also an important skill to have, if you want to sell a lot of your products.
In the end, Josh wasn't being honest with what he was doing (even though there was nothing ilegal, it was morally questionable), he handled matters horribly, but nothing came from that other than a lot of people pissed (with reason, in my opinion). The guy keeps selling a lot of pedals (because he's good at it), he retired a lot of the controversial clones from his line (I guess he can afford hiring someone to create more original circuits now), and Devi, well, that's another matter, so I won't go there.
It's sad that a well known brand like JHS had such a turbulent start, because, if we omit this incident (and things associated with it), I think the company has sparked a lot of interest in guitar pedals for a lot of people. Its influence is undeniable (re: Bad Monkey). That's the good side of marketing, that you can attract people to things that they barely care about. I guess a lot of people decided to start building pedals because of JHS' videos. A pity, really.
Well, I don't want to keep derailing this thread. Thanks for all the info, Cheers.
My “prize” has arrived. These Vox shells are much less robust than your standard crybaby, but meh. Am I tempted to plug it in and try and troubleshoot, well sure, if nothing else for the experience of it, but then again……
Edit: works fine, but the footswitch is jank. Cuts bypassed signal. Probably be solved by raising the switch, but meh. Expression/volume pedal here we come
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