Anyone here had shoulder surgery? A long and winding lamentation.

peccary

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At the end of April my MIL was watching my daughter in the front yard while my wife and I worked. As I am walking out the front door to bring out some lunch for the kiddo, I watch my daughter open the gate that was apparently left un-latched by my MIL's friend who stopped by.

My MIL is sitting in a chair in front of the steps up to our front door (she was doing that to block the kiddo from climbing the concrete stairs because she's obsessed with them). The walkway to the sidewalk is maybe 25 feet - most people could clear it in a hurry in maybe three or four steps. But instead of doing something, my MIL panics. She freezes, blocking the steps, shouting something to the effect of "someone help!" over and over as my daughter steps on to the sidewalk and towards the road.

Because the steps are blocked and my MIL is essentially being a pylon, I jump off the stoop and catch my foot on a planter. Unable to get my feet under myself I take the dive right on to my shoulder, do a completely graceless tuck and roll, get out the gate and grab my daughter before she gets in to the road.

But I am in incredible pain. Had I not also been filled with pure rage at my MIL I might have felt it more, but I essentially just handed my daughter to my wife (who had come out with all of the commotion) and walk inside to the kitchen.

When I played rugby in college, after we got our bell rung or took a big hit, our coach would ask us "Are you hurt, or are you injured?" And that was my first thought as I finally felt the pain in my shoulder and dropped to my knees on the kitchen floor with a sick feeling in my stomach.

I decided to give it some time to heal up. I've been lucky to have never had a serious injury even though I payed some relatively violent/dangerous sports. I figured that I could give it a couple of weeks and it would be better. After two weeks it felt like I was on the mend. Pain was less, I was getting movement back, I was actually able to sleep through the night. Looking good. But it hit a point where it just stopped getting better. I realized that I was unable to move my shoulder particular directions. My arm would be exhausted after a few minutes of doing literally anything.

It took my dumb ass three months to see a shoulder specialist, and after about three minutes with me he tells me I need an MRI to confirm but that he's pretty confident that I have a torn rotator cuff and that he'll need to repair it with surgery. Crap.

So anyways, I still have some hoops to jump through and time to pass, but I was wondering if anyone here has had surgery for a rotator cuff and what the recovery was like. I get the feeling from what little I've read so far that it can take a while. I also just wanted to whine a bit about how this actually happened. If you made it this far - thanks!

I thought I could get to 40 without a broken bone or the need for surgery, but I turn 40 in about 4 months....

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I've injured a shoulder before, but not had or needed surgery, my second mistake had that surgery, I think the kids said she had to wear a sling for like a month then an assload of PT
 
My older brother just married again. true story..

Joe, that really stinks but the upside is you didn't have to live out that alternate timeline. A true dad. You rock.

I hope you mend quickly.
 
4 surgeries for me (3 on the right and 1 on the left). The initial injury to the right side happened while playing hockey. I was in my twenties and dumb, so I didn't get it fixed right away and kept doing more damage. My subsequent dislocations came from throwing a frisbee, a drunken snowball fight, shaking hands (that one was awkward!), and while halfway into a long sleeve wetsuit (that one was the worst as the shoulder was out of socket and the arm was stuck in the sleeve behind my back). Toward the end, my shoulder was like a kid's worn out ragdoll.

I'm 45 now and set personal records this past week for overhead press and incline bench. So the good news is it will heal :)

Complete recovery is long, but the bulk of it comes fast. I was back to 60% in 3 months, 80% in 6 months, but didn’t feel 100% until over 12 months. Be dedicated to the physical therapy and continue to do the exercises at home after the formal therapy ends.

Arthroscopic surgery has improved a lot in 20 years. The incisions are smaller and the repairs are stronger. So I’ll bet you’ll recover faster than I did, even though you’re older.

Good job getting to your daughter in time. Heroes are graceful only in the movies!
 
Man, that sucks! Make sure you get a second and third opinion, lots of doctors are way too eager to do surgery. I have focal dystonia which is a purely neurological condition and before I got diagnosed I saw a hand specialist and he wanted to do surgery, without even knowing what was wrong with my hand! I am so glad I decided to explore other options and eventually landed with a neurologist who correctly diagnosed me. My situation is clearly different, but just to say that doctors sometimes get it wrong.
BTW I also thought I’d get to 40 without breaking a bone and instead I broke a toe last winter (turning 40 in January)…
Good luck with the shoulder, I hope it gets better soon!
 
Be dedicated to the physical therapy and continue to do the exercises at home after the formal therapy ends.
I've had two knee surgeries, and have dealt with some chronic backpain. I was about to write this, but @Dan M has us covered. PT diligence pays off, even though in the moment it can feel futile. Doesn't hurt to work out both sides, too. After I rebuilt all the the muscles in my surgery leg, the "good" leg was lagging behind, ha!

@giovanni makes a solid point, too - second/third opinions don't hurt if you got the flexibility with your insurance.

Good luck!
 
Sorry to hear that Joe.

From my professional experience a great deal of rotator cuff based tears in the young (under 60) do not often need early surgical
management.

Is it your dominant arm?
The MRI will give you lots of info but @giovanni is right - surgeons are only interested in surgery so have a great deal of bias - which will be even more predominant in a private healthcare system because surgery equals 💰 .

IMO unless you have completely torn your cuff (if you did you would be able to raise your arm at all) then there is a fairly good chance you do not NEED surgery.
The fact that your pain was improving after two weeks and your movement was returning is a good sign. It is all case dependant.

Tendons have relatively poor blood supply and take much longer to heal than muscle or bone. Without an operation is an non severely torn tendon it can often be a 12 month period with lots of rehab to improve and you can sometimes improve to only 80% of your previous function but this can often be unnoticeable unless you have a very manual job or do lots of overhead lifting.

In UK healthcare, usually most RC tears will try to conservatively rehabilitate their injuries first and surgery is reserved for people with poor function and failed conservative management. Even the ones that have 100% torn it often try some rehab first to test the waters.

It is one of those things to be able to predict recovery you would need a thorough assessment.

I'm more than happy to have chat about it if you want to PM me.

Hopefully it will start to settle soon!
 
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Thanks everyone, for sharing your experiences and thoughts - I really appreciate it. Especially @Dan M - I'm glad you had a goos experience and are no worse for wear after your recovery.

@JamieJ I'd forgotten that you are a PT. My shoulder was in pretty bad pain for a couple of weeks and then it slowly went away. As it it today it's not usually in "pain" though there is a dull ache. The real issue is that my arm becomes tired after pretty light activities (I can only play my bass for maybe 20 minutes before it gets aggravating, after 45 minutes I usually have to stop). I have had to learn to comb my hair with my left hand because that tires my arm almost instantly. I can't really put my arm behind me and (the most concerning thing to me) when I grab my left shoulder with my right arm I am unable to lift my elbow at all. Not that it is to painful to lift (though there is pain) it is just that I can't lift it at all. That's a bit spooky.
 
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Barry, my ex-bro-in-law on my sister's side is one of my fav peeps and has nailed it on his second try. My ex-bro-in-law on my sister-in-law's side (again...one of my fave's) is one his third and it seems to be a keeper. Always hope.
 
Barry, my ex-bro-in-law on my sister's side is one of my fav peeps and has nailed it on his second try. My ex-bro-in-law on my sister-in-law's side (again...one of my fave's) is one his third and it seems to be a keeper. Always hope.
I’m in a great relationship now we just don’t plan to marry, my second ex’s family made it clear I was divorcing her not them
 
I had my right shoulder (rotator cuff) done 6 years ago. Recovery was wearing a sling for a while, and then basically back to normal. Now it's rock solid. Unfortunately, the left (non dominant) shoulder is doing the same thing. I had my MRI yesterday, so I'll find out what the prognosis is soon. Anyway, the surgery on my right shoulder years ago was pretty easy, and the recovery was fairly quick and not too burdensome.

Best of luck!
 
Adding to what Jaime wrote:
Two years ago I strained my shoulder throwing a football. I hadn’t been keeping up on my exercises (idiot) and am pretty sure I had a moderate tear. I didn’t go to the doctor even though I couldn’t raise my arm frontwards above shoulder level.

I stopped doing anything that felt like it was doing further damage. I started self rehabbing with PT exercises. It was back to normal in about a year. I’m not a medical professional, but like Jaime said, did anyone offer you a “PT first” solution?
 
Sorry to hear that man... I get it though, being a dad in your early 40s to a toddler. When your parental instincts kick in your mind says “we are still 22!” But your body says “noooo dude....” and we just can’t take the hits and heal the same....something always hurts now days even if I don’t injure myself but that might be due to a career in a very physically demanding occupation.... but I digress. I hope that shoulder heals up decently for you. And to quote

Toby Keith
“I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once As I ever was.”

yup a 40 something metal head just quoted Toby Keith...you read that right.
 
I'd wish you a speedy recovery Jo, but I think better to wish a slow, steady and complete recovery.
Be diligent with the PT whether you wind up needing surgery or not.



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"It's a bass player!"

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