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I’m not going to be able to help myself. Now I’m going to be building pedals for 2 instruments. I guess I need to block the Mod Wiggler forum before this thing really gets away from me.Don't forget to vote for some of the bass projects in the wishlist section, we need all the help we can get !
I've played quite a few big band jazz gigs, using mostly the same charts that high school bands everywhere tend to. Frankly, I've never seen a single bass pedal in use beyond a DI, ever. The dynamics as written are often mission critical IME and a compressor would likely just complicate that in many cases, I think. Drive for straight ahead jazz? Nah! But if it's a contemporary combo with R&B leanings (i.e. smooth jazz, etc.), or the band does pop tunes as many these days do, sure, go nuts. In any case, I'd vote for HPF and LPF first and foremost, and highly capable EQ in general as a great starting place. Luck, and have fun!My daughter is looking to join the jazz band at her school next year. She currently plays the cello and is wanting to learn electric bass. I have a few bass guitars that I dabbled with in my early 20's so she can play those until we decide to get her something of her own. What I'm thinking would be neat for her to have would be a kind of basic all in one pedal that she could take with her. My thought is that it should have some sort of amp/cab simulation, maybe a drive and/or fuzz pedal and a compressor. That way if there was already an amp where she was playing she could still have drive and compression available and if not she could run right into the mixer, she could also jam with me through the mixer I mostly play through this way also. Ideally whatever I came up with would be fairly flexible in that it could do some rock, jazz and as she has interest in it maybe some funk/slap.
I have a couple thoughts on possible boards, the first would be EMU amp sim, possibly an EQ(if so which one), some sort of drive(advice needed here) and a compressor(advice also needed here). The other thought I had would be a Unicab, an amp sim(advice needed) then it would be followed by the drive and compressor like the other board. I think she would prefer pedals where the controls were more simple/intuitive and versatility would be a plus also.
Note that although I have played bass a small amount I really am a guitarist at heart and making assumptions from that experience. I know many of the other members on here are bass oriented individuals and am hoping you can give me some advice.
I appreciate the advice. I think one of the reasons I didn’t stick with the bass was that I always had a hard time getting it wrangled to not sound terrible. I don’t want her to feel discouraged like it did with it.I've played quite a few big band jazz gigs, using mostly the same charts that high school bands everywhere tend to. Frankly, I've never seen a single bass pedal in use beyond a DI, ever. The dynamics as written are often mission critical IME and a compressor would likely just complicate that in many cases, I think. Drive for straight ahead jazz? Nah! But if it's a contemporary combo with R&B leanings (i.e. smooth jazz, etc.), or the band does pop tunes as many these days do, sure, go nuts. In any case, I'd vote for HPF and LPF first and foremost, and highly capable EQ in general as a great starting place. Luck, and have fun!
I think we will start with the Sludge Hammer and then build from there. I plan on building a few more compressors that her and I can both use. We are still figuring out what bass she will play I have a nice Japan made Fernandes fretless 5 string that would be my preference but I think she feels more comfortable on my 30 scale Univox HiFlyer. I’m going to try to find a 34 scale 4 string for her to try also before we decide on something.My eldest currently plays a fretless jazz bass and the electric upright for his school’s jazz band and even though he has access to WAY too many pedals (mine), the only one that he has ever used was my Ocelot (OC-2) clone and that was for one Stevie Wonder song. If you are looking to go DI, I can vouch for the Sludgehammer. Good basic eq options but can get a little dirt if needed
I don’t think you are wrong. I personally can’t imagine not having atleast one fuzz or distortion available maybe up to 5 or so. But I also never played in a Jazz band and when I was that age was playing punk, metal, Hardcore ect.Am i wrong ?
I got a 2010 squier vintage modified 70’s jazz bass for $200. Swamp ash body, Duncan designed pups, solid choice. I ended up modding the electronics with stacked pots (don’t recommend) and a series/parallel switch (absolutely recommend) and more recently put on a Warmoth maple fretless neck. All of my sons fellow bass band mates love it.I’m going to try to find a 34 scale 4 string for her to try also before we decide on something.
Cool. A few of the band geeks from our local high school's jazz big band used to come out occasionally to an open mic I ran:I appreciate the advice. I think one of the reasons I didn’t stick with the bass was that I always had a hard time getting it wrangled to not sound terrible. I don’t want her to feel discouraged like it did with it.
I think they will do a bit of more contemporary stuff as well as some standards. This one isn’t a class but an afterschool club so I think the kids have a bit of input on the pieces.
I love the fact that they all are wearing sunglasses (at night none the less). I mean if that doesn't say jazz, I don't know what does.Cool. A few of the band geeks from our local high school's jazz big band used to come out occasionally to an open mic I ran:
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They'd do hip hop, full on funk, and whatever else they felt like pulling out, very little of which was actual jazz. It always went over really well, and I got to take a break from mixing during their set.
It’s tough looking cool with your sousaphone.I love the fact that they all are wearing sunglasses (at night none the less). I mean if that doesn't say jazz, I don't know what does.
The ODR1 is killer on bass! Can make even the cheapest practice amp sound like a cranked SVT (just watch the output level of the pedal— no more than unity gain is a good rule of thumb- as too much will make most solid state bass amps start to clip in a not very good sounding way).Also don’t dismiss pedals that aren’t specifically for bass. Phase 90, tubescreamer, big muff, odr1, or whatever chorus you have laying around are just some examples.
I was surprised to see all the suggestions for a HPF I had not considered that.After that trifecta, I guess a compressor/limiter would be the next most useful utility item. Preamp, if it's not already taken care of by the DI...
I can't not at least mention this DIY option then: https://github.com/Passinwind/PW3B-LPF/blob/main/README.mdI was surprised to see all the suggestions for a HPF I had not considered that.
I will look at EQs a bit. I have a few things we can try. I have an interest in these too so not a big deal to build a few more.
Well that is pretty cool. I haven’t made it that far into pedal building to have a board fabbed but I do have an interest in it. I’m guessing you pick a manufacturer and send in the .MD file? I probably won’t be able to keep myself from making an open source 3D printable enclosure for this if I go down this road.I can't not at least mention this DIY option then: https://github.com/Passinwind/PW3B-LPF/blob/main/README.md
The V4 is the flagship model for the moment and if you can handle some relatively easy SMD soldering it's a pretty swell EQ solution for bass, IMNSHO. V5 will probably have a DI, phase inversion. etc., if and when I get around to that. Maybe a DSP section too. I need to concentrate on the acoustic guitar ones for now though, especially since I just bought my first-ever acoustic guitar a few days ago.
I haven't built up and Equilux yet, but my designs share a little DNA with it and it seems like a winner for bass applications on the face of it.
I can't not at least mention this DIY option then: https://github.com/Passinwind/PW3B-LPF/blob/main/README.md
The V4 is the flagship model for the moment and if you can handle some relatively easy SMD soldering it's a pretty swell EQ solution for bass, IMNSHO. V5 will probably have a DI, phase inversion. etc., if and when I get around to that. Maybe a DSP section too. I need to concentrate on the acoustic guitar ones for now though, especially since I just bought my first-ever acoustic guitar a few days ago.
I haven't built up and Equilux yet, but my designs share a little DNA with it and it seems like a winner for bass applications on the face of it.
If you want to contribute anything to the open source aspect of this, great! A standardized little sub enclosure for each module would be a great addition too, just sayin'.Well that is pretty cool. I haven’t made it that far into pedal building to have a board fabbed but I do have an interest in it. I’m guessing you pick a manufacturer and send in the .MD file? I probably won’t be able to keep myself from making an open source 3D printable enclosure for this if I go down this road.
All good, I am still dragging my feet a little on the final details, such as the footswitchable version's graphics package. It's all done and ready to go, but I'm sleeping on things for a few more days before putting it on Github in case any improvements present themselves.I meant to put in a link to your Oshpark stuff, but was lazy; Thanks for the github follow up.
You can?! Is it just a matter of changing a few components? Where can I find a build doc for that?Chuck D. Bones bsss klon is great. I also like a vintage microtube. You can build one on the Odsidius Preamp. I’m sure others will chime in with their favorites.
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/bass-klon.13073/You can?! Is it just a matter of changing a few components? Where can I find a build doc for that?