Decent rockman clones?

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acuevo

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I happened upon this company from Japan that has what appear to be some decent rockman clones. Have a look and a listen!

I've got a Proposition Distortion board on the way, but I've searched for a while to find some kind of clone of the "flagship" models (sustainer, stereo delay etc) and this is pretty promising. I'm aware of a company gearing up to do an X100 pedal which looks killer as well - I've actually seen them post on the board here too. Having some "new" production versions of those old modules would certainly be cool though too.

I did see something posted about this Goat company here from a couple years ago, but i feel like it bears repeating in case anyone missed it. Looks like they're not just a limited run anymore. They're available direct from the website but I also saw some available on reverb.

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acuevo said:
Yes those are the exact posts i was referring to

As i said, i just thought it was cool and thought i’d share
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When we get around to completing the RMS V3 and finish the first run, we'll be selling the mostly populated PCBs (populated with SMD components) and provide the artwork for and/or finished 1590D enclosures. There are over 300 components in these V3 builds and require advanced-level build skills.

As for older production 'modules', the X100 can be broken down into about 5 sections . . . .
  1. Distortion (Rockman 'Ultimatum Distortion Generator' = PedalPCB 'Proposition')
  2. Compressor (Rockman 'Compressor' = most any compressor that can be set short & tight with a fairly long release time)
  3. Clean 1 & 2 (Rockman 'Acoustic Pedal' = nothing else yet that I'm aware of - but a good graphic EQ could closely approximate either CLN1 or CLN2)
  4. Chorus (Rockman 'Stereo Chorus' = most any decent chorus pedal with good depth and slow modulation capabilities)
  5. Reverb/Delay (Rockman 'Stereo Echo' = most any short delay with some feedback capabilities)

All the circuits in our RMS X100 (V1, V2 & V3) series are exact clones of the original Rockman X100 (rev 10), including the exotically rare MN3011 BBD. (Except for our V3 version which will use a SpinSemi FV-1 DSP with custom effect patches created to precisely match the original X100 effects. The MN3011 chips are now about $100 each, if they can be found.

The compression section of the X100 (and the Ultimatum/Proposition) works in concert with the Gain setting. As the Gain is turned up, the compress effect diminishes. In the CLN1 & CLN2 settings, the compressor is always on.

The CLN1 & CLN2 sections of the circuit are some very specific filters for acquiring that "Boston" guitar tone.

The chorus is actually pretty standard and in the Rockman X100 is NOT true stereo. Rather, Tom Scholz counted on the psycho-acoustic effect of chorus to get a "stereo" result. In the X100, the mono chorus signal is split out onto both the left & right channels, but at the mixer the right channel is passed thru a 39K resistor and the left channel passes thru a 120K resistor; creating a sonic imbalance of the chorus output.

The echo section is true stereo in that the MN3011 (a 6-tap BBD) has its 6 output taps split between the left & right channels - 3 on the left and 3 on the right. And like the chorus, passes thru an imbalanced pair of resistors for the left & right channels.

There is a LOT to the X100 sound.
 
Cybercow said:
When we get around to completing the RMS V3 and finish the first run, we'll be selling the mostly populated PCBs (populated with SMD components) and provide the artwork for and/or finished 1590D enclosures. There are over 300 components in these V3 builds and require advanced-level build skills.

As for older production 'modules', the X100 can be broken down into about 5 sections . . . .
  1. Distortion (Rockman 'Ultimatum Distortion Generator' = PedalPCB 'Proposition')
  2. Compressor (Rockman 'Compressor' = most any compressor that can be set short & tight with a fairly long release time)
  3. Clean 1 & 2 (Rockman 'Acoustic Pedal' = nothing else yet that I'm aware of - but a good graphic EQ could closely approximate either CLN1 or CLN2)
  4. Chorus (Rockman 'Stereo Chorus' = most any decent chorus pedal with good depth and slow modulation capabilities)
  5. Reverb/Delay (Rockman 'Stereo Echo' = most any short delay with some feedback capabilities)

All the circuits in our RMS X100 (V1, V2 & V3) series are exact clones of the original Rockman X100 (rev 10), including the exotically rare MN3011 BBD. (Except for our V3 version which will use a SpinSemi FV-1 DSP with custom effect patches created to precisely match the original X100 effects. The MN3011 chips are now about $100 each, if they can be found.

The compression section of the X100 (and the Ultimatum/Proposition) works in concert with the Gain setting. As the Gain is turned up, the compress effect diminishes. In the CLN1 & CLN2 settings, the compressor is always on.

The CLN1 & CLN2 sections of the circuit are some very specific filters for acquiring that "Boston" guitar tone.

The chorus is actually pretty standard and in the Rockman X100 is NOT true stereo. Rather, Tom Scholz counted on the psycho-acoustic effect of chorus to get a "stereo" result. In the X100, the mono chorus signal is split out onto both the left & right channels, but at the mixer the right channel is passed thru a 39K resistor and the left channel passes thru a 120K resistor; creating a sonic imbalance of the chorus output.

The echo section is true stereo in that the MN3011 (a 6-tap BBD) has its 6 output taps split between the left & right channels - 3 on the left and 3 on the right. And like the chorus, passes thru an imbalanced pair of resistors for the left & right channels.

There is a LOT to the X100 sound.
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Very interesting stuff! Scholz’s work was certainly way ahead of his time. Especially considering the demand for the product in the modern guitar community, the tones stand the test of time and then some.

Seeing members of the community such as yourself diligently researching and developing these is admirable and very very cool indeed.
 
There's this thing that I put together too, if you want to go deep down the rabbit hole. Advanced level project. Intentionally not a straight clone, but more for people who want to experiment and make it their own. Better than the original in more than one way:

jtex.ca/re
 
JTEX said:
There's this thing that I put together too, if you want to go deep down the rabbit hole. Advanced level project. Intentionally not a straight clone, but more for people who want to experiment and make it their own. Better than the original in more than one way:

jtex.ca/re
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WOAH now that is cool!!!!! I love the concept and … just wow thats impressive man. Bookmarking that for the future!!
 
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