DEMO Fuzz Face (MP38A NPN Ge) [perf/wood]

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owlexifry

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after beginning my dive into breadboarding with some soviet NPN Ge, i wasn’t really all that excited with the sounds i was initially getting on the fuzz face circuit.
briefly tried silicons, still wasn’t that great, although the ones i tried were like 350hfe (bc108). gonna have to revisit a silicon fuzz face with some lower gain units eventually.
but with germaniums, NPN or PNP, it took a while for me to learn that it just always sounded better (to me) with the leakier units.

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(it’s also difficult to know how accurate/meaningful my numbers are when the ambient temperature is at the mercy of the poorly insulated room that can get quite cold in winter and hot in summer.)
in sep/oct last year, i had measured, bagged and labelled some MP38A, and in june (cold) this year they were measuring a lot lower.

i’m guessing these values were measured somewhere around 16-17’C room temp:
Q1Q2
48.4 hfe, 182ua leak69.6 hfe, 189ua leak

with enough leakage i was actually able to get it to do the cleanup thing with the guitar volume control. it's pretty nifty.

and i had no idea how good it would sound when it’s cleaned up. has this beautiful crispy preampy thing going on.
anyway, because i was so stoked on how this circuit was sounding, i felt it deserved the wooden perf board treatment.

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underestimated the size of the board, it was a bit too big and a hell of a squeeze.
the carbon comp resistors were actually salvaged from an amp build that was stripped and rebuilt, they were just sitting in a box of pulled parts. thought they'd be a good fit.

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DEMO:
it might seem out of place using a jackson dinky for this demo - but it’s a lot easier to do the cleanup thing with a single master volume control (vs. les paul with x2 volumes) and it has some nice split coil modes that none of my other guitars have
 
Whoa that's a dark tone. The kind that disappears on stage :)

Pretty strange that you couldn't get cleanup with non leaky transistors. You sure the voltages were in the ballpark?
Low voltage and leakage usually gates and cleans up less (but sounds cool).

I go as low as 3V on Q2c, like Eric Johnson.

As for low gain silicons, breadboard a JHF1 with BC108 gains around 260. I have an original and it's so good. A bit fizzy on cleanup but quite workable.

Anyway beautiful work. That board is shexy
 
Whoa that's a dark tone.
im using middle pickup switch position for a bigger low end and mid scoop.
it’s definitely not dark on the bridge pickup.
You sure the voltages were in the ballpark?
Yes.
Q1c around 0.7-0.8V, Q2c about 5V. (regardless, Q2c resistor is a trimpot for seasonal/taste adjustment)
Low voltage and leakage usually gates and cleans up less (but sounds cool).
nah, not cool, sounds like shite to me. i don't like gated fuzzes. i want my fuzz to be burly.
I go as low as 3V on Q2c, like Eric Johnson.
i prefer it around 5V.
As for low gain silicons, breadboard a JHF1 with BC108 gains around 260. I have an original and it's so good. A bit fizzy on cleanup but quite workable.
probably gonna use these for a silicon FF
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first handful of x5 have ranged from 79-144. keen.
Anyway beautiful work. That board is shexy
thanks 🤙

What kind of wood is that?
cheap hobby/craft wood from the hardware store (paulownia). stained (poorly) with some mahogany tint, finished with danish oil.
 
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