Help with tracing a pedal.

dmnCrawler

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I am trying to trace the KMA - Tyler The Freq Splitter. I am having trouble figuring out how to determine the SMD capacitor values. There are no markings on the caps and if I am correct they can not be measured in place. I am unsure of the values of C1, C4, C5, C14, C15. I am guessing on the input diode value [1N4148]. And I am very unsure of the schematic. I have spent several days going over it and think I have all the traces correct, but I have only been building for 4 months and my knowledge is limited.

Also the low and high pass jacks do hook up to the wrong filters. I believe they are miss labeled on the PCB. I will fix them in the final version of the schematic. Any help, hints ,tips or other resources to use are greatly appreciated.

If this is the wrong place please let me know the right place.

Tyler_top (Small).png
Tyler_bottom (Small).png
tyler_schematic - Copy.png
C1xR1
220-1​
22RTHD1x
C2
47​
16VR2
2204​
2.2MD25mm LEDWhite Clear
C3
220​
16VR3
1002​
10kD33mm LEDYellow Clear
C4xR4
2203​
220kD43mm LEDYellow Clear
C5xR5
2203​
220k
C6
10​
16VR6
3902​
39kTRIM
105​
C7
10​
16VR7
1002​
10kTRIM
105​
C8
47​
16VR8
1001​
1kTRIM
105​
C9xR9
1001​
1k
C10
10​
16VR10
2201​
2.2kLow PassA100KDual
C11
10​
16VR11
3300​
330RLevelA100K
C12
10​
16VR12
1002​
10kMixB10K
C13
10​
16VR13
1004​
1MHigh PassA100KDual
C14xR14
2203​
220k
C15xR15
1002​
10k+ -SPDTON-ON
C16
10​
16VR16
2204​
2.2M
C17
10​
16VR17
2204​
2.2MWood3PDT
C18
10​
16VR18
1002​
10kBypass3PDT
R19
1002​
10kSteel3PDT
IC17660SCPAZ
R20​
1002​
10k
IC2TL074CR21
1003​
100kINStereo Switching
IC3TL072CR22
1001​
1KOUTStereo Switching
IC4TL074CR23
1001​
1KLP SendStereo Switching
R24
1001​
1KLP ReturnStereo Switching
Enclosure1590XXR25
1002​
10kHP SendStereo Switching
R26
1004​
1MHP ReturnStereo Switching
R27
1001​
1K
R28
1004​
1M
 

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Unfortunately you really need to remove them to get an accurate measurement.

Be careful, if any of them are SMD film capacitors they will melt when you try to desolder them. Those have to be isolated in-circuit by removing other components around them, then you can measure them while still installed on the PCB.
 
Unfortunately you really need to remove them to get an accurate measurement.

Be careful, if any of them are SMD film capacitors they will melt when you try to desolder them. Those have to be isolated in-circuit by removing other components around them, then you can measure them while still installed on the PCB.

I had a feeling it would not be easy. And I believe it is only the film caps that I need measurements for. I am hoping that someone may have some ideas of ranges just from the circuit design and where the caps are placed.
 
Unfortunately you really need to remove them to get an accurate measurement.

Be careful, if any of them are SMD film capacitors they will melt when you try to desolder them. Those have to be isolated in-circuit by removing other components around them, then you can measure them while still installed on the PCB.

Have you ever tried the SMD multimeter tweezers? I have tried the cheaper versions and it is only useful for resistors.
 
Have you ever tried the SMD multimeter tweezers? I have tried the cheaper versions and it is only useful for resistors.

Wow, I missed this... Better late than never though, right?

I have since picked up another Pace station with MT-200 tweezers. It has significantly cut down the amount of time to takes to measure SMD components. Unfortunately it vaporizes film caps just as quickly as a regular iron, but it makes it much easier to isolate them in the circuit.

It gets enough use that I bought a second station just for the tweezers so I can go back and forth with the iron quickly.
 
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