Hey Doomer! Help me put a doom/stoner board together

Paradox916

Paradox916

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Since I have my main rig pretty much where I want it, It’s time to get some of these pedals off the shelf and I had a lot of fun chasing doom tones, I wanted to revisit that by putting a mini board together with what I have, here’s where you come in: I’m thinking about 6 pedals total

So what would your suggestion be for the signal chain? General type effects or specific

What I’m working with:

For starters here let’s talk dirt,

what I have that would fit the bill

Green Russian muff (mods mids control and drone/feedback/sustain switch)

Rat a straight rat clone with clipping options

GE fuzz two different dizzy tone variants

Is it worth it to have all three on the board?
The Rat could also be used as a boost?

Other boost options I have

TS-808

MBP Archibald (BK butler tube drive)

LPB-1

Klon (this doesn’t seem like a fit but I have it so just throwing it out there

Modulation

Chorus/ phaser/ flanger
, Wild cards like vib or trem?

Delays : Analog or digital ?

Before you count out digital I have a

EL gatekeeper (Disaster Transport) modded with a momentary adjustable slam/feedback switch

Boss DD-7

For analog

Dm-3

AD9

And the infamous DMM

And lastly I only have one option for octave that will incorporated.
So what does your doom/stoner set up look like? What would you want it to be?
What are your suggestions?
 
What you seek is the Colorsound One-Knob Fuzz or its children (the D*A*M Meathead, Walrus Contraband, etc.)

Also, maybe surprisingly, the Jordan Bosstone. I recommend tweaking it for more bass. I built one with a 3-band EQ tacked on the end and it rules!

(Read too fast and didn't realize you weren't look for build recommendations. Either way, check those out.)
 
with what you have available I would go TS-Rat-Phaser-any delay is fine, AD9 would be my pick tho

if you mod the klon to chuck's bass values it's also a great dirt for low tunings, I'm just a bit obsessed with the TS-Rat combo at the moment [and have laid out my own one knob board incorporating them both lol].

The HM-2 with the gain and highs turned down from chainsaw peak also makes one of the best boosts, the lows just kick you right in the chest
 
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sticky1138 said:
What you seek is the Colorsound One-Knob Fuzz or its children (the D*A*M Meathead, Walrus Contraband, etc.)

Also, maybe surprisingly, the Jordan Bosstone. I recommend tweaking it for more bass. I built one with a 3-band EQ tacked on the end and it rules!

(Read too fast and didn't realize you weren't look for build recommendations. Either way, check those out.)
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Fairly certain the contraband is a bazz fuss and not a meathead variant but it's still good

Came here to say meathead. I'll send you a board if you don't mind doing some off roading
 
Selecting from what you said you have, basically, and in order sandwiched between guitar and amp:

OCTAVER — can place elsewhere in the chain if you can use direct guitar signal as trigger (using PedalPCB SPLITTER for example), otherwise here it be.​
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ARCHIBALD — core "clean" tone or used as boost to melt down the fuzzes...​
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FUZZES: LOOP SWITCHER W/ TWO LOOPS, full BYPASS stomper and EITHER/OR stomper to jump between loops 1 & 2...​
LOOP 1: I'd run the RAT & MUFF so both can be turned on together. RAT>MUFF​
LOOP 2: DIZZY TONE one of the best fuzzes ever IMO.​
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FLANGER (can get phasery/chorusish tones, but chorus and phaser cannot get flanger tones.)​
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EL GATEKEEPER for its slam-switch (stomper, right?). With a core tone of DOOMUD, no need for analogue delays, stick those on your Blues-Lawyer board.​
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TREMOLO — super-hard chop on-off setting only, leave the Harmonic Trem for the country-hick gigs​
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LPB-1 modded into a MOLE for making everything before it MOAR LOWDER.​


Other suggestions all good, too, ie Meathead (go with the DarkMeat version), BazzFuss variants, and Bassified Klone.
 
Placing the Rat in front of the BIg Muff will help tighten things up. The Meathead is also an excellent option.

It's shameless self promotion, but maybe you'd like one of these? It was born out of asking the question, "What would happen if you shoved an Acapulco Gold inside a Rat, like a high-gain turducken?"

 
Nostradoomus said:
with what you have available I would go TS-Rat-Phaser-any delay is fine, AD9 would be my pick tho

, I'm just a bit obsessed with the TS-Rat combo at the moment [and have laid out my own one knob board incorporating them both lol].
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definitely will try this one
 
Feral Feline said:
Selecting from what you said you have, basically, and in order sandwiched between guitar and amp:

OCTAVER — can place elsewhere in the chain if you can use direct guitar signal as trigger (using PedalPCB SPLITTER for example), otherwise here it be.​
​
ARCHIBALD — core "clean" tone or used as boost to melt down the fuzzes...​
​
FUZZES: LOOP SWITCHER W/ TWO LOOPS, full BYPASS stomper and EITHER/OR stomper to jump between loops 1 & 2...​
LOOP 1: I'd run the RAT & MUFF so both can be turned on together. RAT>MUFF​
LOOP 2: DIZZY TONE one of the best fuzzes ever IMO.​
​
FLANGER (can get phasery/chorusish tones, but chorus and phaser cannot get flanger tones.)​
​
EL GATEKEEPER for its slam-switch (stomper, right?). With a core tone of DOOMUD, no need for analogue delays, stick those on your Blues-Lawyer board.​
​
TREMOLO — super-hard chop on-off setting only, leave the Harmonic Trem for the country-hick gigs​
​
LPB-1 modded into a MOLE for making everything before it MOAR LOWDER.​


Other suggestions all good, too, ie Meathead (go with the DarkMeat version), BazzFuss variants, and Bassified Klone.
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That sounds awesome but I’m limited on power taps and space, the flanger approach does make a good point for covering more ground with less and I do like the idea of all three dirt pedals.
 
Harry Klippton said:
Fairly certain the contraband is a bazz fuss and not a meathead variant but it's still good

Came here to say meathead. I'll send you a board if you don't mind doing some off roading
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Yep, both are great though. The contraband is probably my favorite bazz that I've encountered. My favorite of the one knobbers is the dark meathead. I've also built a ritual fuzz with that same pcb, doesn't suck.
 
Octaver - I love the Ibanez Standard Fuzz. It’s like a nastier Super Fuzz with an even more over the top octave up.

Big Muff - Try building one to Dope Priest DP-77 specs. Very different that the Green Russian, much more mid focused. It definitely dooms.

Germanium Fuzz - I like the Buzzaround over the Dizzy Tone here. Try higher hFE transistors (80ish for the Darlington pair, 160+ for Q3). Use the D*A*M Buzzotron values for the tone section for more bass and doom.

Boost - The PedalPCB Rangefinder is actually really good here. Use 4.7nF, 6.8nF, and 8.2nF for the three smallest input capacitors; that’s the sweet spot for the circuit.
 
Feral Feline said:
Are you using that on bass or guitar?

I've not tried this variant of the BazzFuss yet
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It's definitely not on my main bass board as it has many heavy hitters to compete with. So mostly with guitar/ baritone but I liked it with bass too. I haven't actually a/b compared the contraband to my other bazz circuits. The only one of them i still have is the moonn version with way too many knobs and switches and that thing is like.... 1000 flavors of underwhelm.
 
As for types of pedals, I'd say:

(maybe octave down) -> as much dirt as possible -> phaser or flanger -> delay (analogue).

Circuit wise: Muff + Rat = yeah!
Dizzy is cool too.

But it's not going to be fully stoner/doom without a MEGALITH. That one would also cover "boost" with the MOAR footswitch.

Oh, and Meathead is great, the Fuzz O))) version would be my recommandation.
 
So as much fun as I had with the dizzy tone after a little A/B action the Muff and rat are the front runners, although I was surprised at how much I liked the 808 for a boost to both the muff and rat as @Nostradoomus suggested,
The dizzy just wasn’t getting the aggressiveness I was looking for for so it didn’t make it to the next round, and the octave doesn’t seem to be quite as necessary as I thought so it might be the next to go.
 
Some years back (2020 I believe) I did a similar project using 3 circuits: a BMP, a Rat and a Boost. I put the boost at the end of the chain and configured the Rat & BMP to swap order or go parallel with a toggle switch. Turned out rather well.
And while it was done up with GuitarPCB boards, PedalPCB certainly has them as well.

DOA_Done_01.jpg DOA_Done_02.jpg DOA_Gutshot_Done.jpg
 
Not much to add here ... But ...

Octave -> Rat -> chorus -> muff -> phaser -> analog delay -> digital delay

The chorus between gain stages is a personal favorite, but I generally wouldn't use it for any clean sounds and likely wouldn't use it till the 2nd drive pedal can crush the chorused signal. I run two delays because i like reverse delay a lot of the time for any stoner/psych sounds but it isn't for every situation.
 
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