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Alan W

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This is going to be a long post...apologies in advance...

In 2008 I sold a Gibson ES 330, that I had owned for 15 years or so, I loved everything about it except the pencil thin neck (both SKINNY and thin). I really did well on the sale, and was able to buy a then current dream guitar, a Collings 290, and a truly lovely hollow-body, an Eastman 15 inch thin line. Until 2019 when I put together two partscasters, a Baritone Tele and a Strat, they were easily my most played guitars. Along with the parts casters, as I was on a quest for "clean tone" I built an Allen Encore, which is close to a Fender Super Reverb (but single channel, has a master volume, BIAS tremolo, a tone control for the reverb trails, and a raw control, (which is probably the single coolest feature—it fades the entire [subtractive] tone stack out, so you get both a lot more signal feeding the PI and a much larger midrange—effectively, it lets me take the blackface into brown and finally blond territory...). Through the Allen, there was a brashness to the Eastman, that I couldn't get rid of, and decided it was most likely the pickup. Since I was enthralled with the two part casters, I put the Eastman in its case and decided I'd figure it out later.

Late December I did that—and when I tuned it back up to pitch, the metal hinge at the base of the tailpiece fractured! The knuckle broke off! I did a web search, and noticed that this was a common flaw in early Eastman carve tops. I wrote the company, asking if there was a replacement available. Knowing the chances of a reply were slim until after New Year's, I chilled. They got back to me, saying it was no longer being made, and that they didn't have that exact part, but send them some closeups of the base of the guitar and they'd find something that fit. (No request for proof of ownership, etc.)

I got the replacement tailpiece in last Thursday, and needed to drill some new holes for it. Got it mounted and played it on Friday. No brashness! It was (I am supposing here) an as yet invisible fracture in the tailpiece that was creating the distortion! I really had fun playing it; especially stacking low gain pedals (something I didn't use to do...) still keeping the sound almost totally clean, but very feedback prone. I play with my foot permanently attached to a volume pedal, often swelling and making slight adjustments, and found it easy to ride the feedback, keeping it in more of less in control, and using the feedback as a changing drone to play off of. Major gas!

This got me thinking. I've really loved Baritone—are there any Baritone hollowbodies out there? So I could mix the Baritone voice with the feedback fun? A quick search only found one true hollow body, a very fancy D'Angelico that was just too fancy. (Based on my Eastman, I have no issues believing that a Chinese sourced jazz guitar would be flawed.) But, I also hit on a guitar, and luthier, I had never heard of before, Grez Guitars, who makes a semi hollow Baritone, the Mendocino.


Even better, he's an hour away from me! And yesterday morning, my wife mentioned she was driving to that town today for a meeting, was I interested in hiking in the area? I emailed Barry, the luthier/owner, who said, stop on by—but he had no Baritones completed right now, it would be a few weeks. So— I will go up for a quick visit today, will play a non Baritone Mendocino, and also talk to him about a 15 inch thin line, probably with a spruce top, to begin to decide how open sounding (and also feedback prone) I want a Baritone to be. This could mean either a new guitar in a few weeks, or up to 18 months (current wait for completely custom builds)—and last week I didn't see any new guitars in my future.

To be continued...

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Well, to continue the saga:

Barry emailed me last week that the Baritone he was working on was completed, so I set up an appointment for today, and went and tried it out, along with a number of his regular scale 6 strings. Everything was top notch. The Baritone model that he had completed definitely had a nice sound and played really well; but it was not as different a sound (compared to my current Warmoth build Baritone) as I was shooting for. I'm hoping that what I have ordered gets me to exactly where I want; I'm sure it will be a very nice guitar, and will be good to play. Basically, it's his SR-15 model, which is a single cutaway, thin line, but with non-formed top and back. Built a good bit lighter than a 335, (somewhere in the 5 3/4 pound range) and more open and acoustic sounding. (This based on the regular 6 strings I played.) Old growth redwood top, back, sides, neck and tone block mahogany, ebony fingerboard (that I did pick out, along with several possibilities for the top, that will wait (1 1/2 years!!) until he has the mahogany pulled. Cream binding, 2 F holes, a very subtle reddish sunburst on the top and some medium brown toner on the mahogany, 2 Lollar Gold foils, a Grez tailpiece, TonePros bridge, my favorite Hip Shot open back locking tuners, ebony buttons. No fretboard markers, Jumbo EVO frets. The one remaining blank is whether I get the neck bound or not; I really can't decide, but I have plenty of time to think about it. I am not sure how much excitement I will sustain until the build starts, but I'm sure once it's underway I'll be climbing the walls. (probably 10 weeks to complete once started.) I don't even have a picture of something truly similar to share, but do recommend visiting his site if you like good roots performances; he has a number of different people performing with his guitars.

I also played the (to me) nicest sounding hum bucker I've played, (clean through a 12 inch princeton non reverb). 'm not sure of the specific model, but they were Throwbacks. I really don't like most H.B.s, but these had a open, dynamic sound. (Those Lollar Gold Foils are perfect for Baritone.) (And now I have to add, the first "Lollar" auto-corrected to Collar, the second to Dollar. It's like the OS really knows these things.)
 
The one possibly good thing about having 18 months before construction starts is that it gives me plenty of time to change my mind…

That Eastman has had me wanting to play nothing else the past few weeks. It was the “riding on the edge of feedback” (using my volume pedal) that made me want a Baritone that has that level of acoustic liveliness and potential to “sing along”— and I really do need to go full hollow bodied, floating bridge etc. archtop to get there. So, yesterday I changed my specs—laminated solid spruce top, 15 inch body, probably still 2 pickup, but I may go with just the neck; (the Eastman is neck only, and is responsive enough to pick placement that I get as much snap a I want from the neck. There’s something about not having the pickup mass (of a bridge pickup) right at the sweet spot for the top vibrations, but I hate to limit the potential sounds that much. So, still TBD, as are the neck, back and sides woods. I think mahogany, but may go with maple. I promised Barry I wouldn‘t do anymore 180s on him.
 
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So, it was closer to 2 1/2 years…as Barry has been very successful with his more “production” guitars, and, as a one man shop, I think he was having a hard time finding time to do all the labor intensive work on this. It may be his last ever arch top…

It has all the fullness of tone that I was hoping for, and the Gold Foils are just incredible. I especially like the bridge pickup positioning, it’s moved neckward to hit the harmonics there, and while it doesn’t have the twang of a typically placed neck pickup, it has a rounded sound that is more to my liking. As with my Warmoth build, I got a fourth pickup position, both in series, that is even more powerful on this. I really recommend that mod on teles.

I had sent a few pictures of sunburst guitars as references, but was floored with how great he got the finish.

Just a few weeks ago, I realized that I didn’t need two baritones—let’s get real, how much tonal variation do I need, and I certainly don’t need a back up baritone… So it hit me! I’m just completing a Musikraft order for a 12 string neck to drop onto the thinline body! To be continued!

I’ll be selling the Warmoth conversion neck—if anyone is interested, I can send you specifics.
 
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So, it was closer to 2 1/2 years…as Barry has been very successful with his more “production” guitars, and, as a one man shop, I think he was having a hard time finding time to do all the labor intensive work on this. It may be his last ever arch top…

It has all the fullness of tone that I was hoping for, and the Gold Foils are just incredible. I especially like the bridge pickup positioning, it’s moved neckward to hit the harmonics there, and while it doesn’t have the twang of a typically placed neck pickup, it has a rounded sound that is more to my liking. As with my Warmoth build, I got a fourth pickup position, both in series, that is even more powerful on this. I really recommend that mod on teles.

I had sent a few pictures of sunburst guitars as references, but was floored with how great he got the finish.

Just a few weeks ago, I realized that I didn’t need two baritones—let’s get real, how much tonal variation do I need, and I certainly don’t need a back up baritone… So it hit me! I’m just completing a Musikraft order for a 12 string neck to drop onto the thinline body! To be continued!

I’ll be selling the Warmoth conversion neck—if anyone is interested, I can send you specifics.
I’d like to hear the specs on that neck…
 
28 5/8 inch scale. Nut width is 1.75. Deep C carve, specced at .86 at first fret and .95 at twelfth. A big neck, which I like. (I didn’t measure those, but he cnc’s the necks, so am pretty sure they’re close.) Mahogany neck with Madagascar Ebony fingerboard, and those great EVO frets (I regret getting stainless on my two Warmoth builds; I love how polished it stays, after years of playing, but that subtle “ping” on the attack has grown to really irk me. The EVO frets are smooth like stainless, wear almost as well, and sound like nickel.) Double action truss rod he gets machined by a local shop.
 
Oh shoot, you mean the Warmoth neck—with those ping frets! It’s a similar scale and carve to what I just described, except Warmoth only does 1 11/16 nuts. The neck is pretty highly flamed, roasted maple, you can see the headstock to get an idea. The fretboard is lovely Pau Ferro with abalone dots. Gun oil finish, really smooth and satiny. Fits standard Tele pocket. Big frets. Probably keeping the tuners to use on the 12 string neck. Bone nut, cut for 14 to 68 strings. IMG_0374.jpeg IMG_0373.jpeg
 
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