OK Doomer/NOTADOOMER/Gouge PtP

comradehoser

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A while back I breadboarded this and was thinking of dropping it from the build list. Gain, gain, gain, fuzz, fuzz, fuzz, blah, blah, blah. Seen it, done it, got the Conan shirt.

Then it came up in rotation and I breadboarded it again, since I had all the parts. Boy, I'm glad I did.

This is one of those builds that just kind of fell together (mostly). I built it straight stock with no fiddly mods, since subtleties of tone is not really its forte--it's just a big old lumbering fuzz. This is a pretty straightforward circuit with 3 tie ins--tie ins are the crucial complications of PtP construction for me--and 4 repetitive blocks plus a power section that I built individually and just played with on a 125b outline until something came out of the possibilities that I liked. After I laid down all of the bottom layer stuff to the volume knob and 3PDT switch, I contemplated slotting in the circuit blocks edgewise (like books on a shelf) instead of flat, or folding one half under the other, but I wanted to show off what up until that point was a very clean line circuit layout and assembly, so flat it was, and I staggered the first half right and the second left.

Of course, when I started "final touching" things, things started warping and getting out of relation. The end result is some minor infelicities of line, but overall, I am pretty happy with the aesthetics. As usual for me, ground is to the right, hot line is to the left. Looks I am highly resistant to clean right angles and continue to default to flowy organic curves.
Oh well.

I made my life more complicated by locating the line of pots up under the jacks more than they needed to be, which made for an overly cramped top area, but I used the PTP power of spatiality to deal with it. I also tried a new in/out and power jack arrangement, and I think I actually like it a lot.

Soundwise, I dig it. It starts as kind of a grainy overdrivey fuzz, and it progresses through the rotation to a super fuzzed-out sandstorm of a gain beast. Still manages to preserve note clarity until the very end, and it's surprisingly quiet on humbuckers. Doesn't chug really (maybe @owlexifry can do it since he pulls squealies out of everything), but it's a doom mallet, and that it does well. If you know the ionostrophere, you will be familiar with this sound, kind of reminiscent of a big muff (hey, it's got 4 transistors) although the OK Doomer manages to have its own thing going. The filter knob has a very useable and much appreciated sweep. Also pretty low noise floor on humbuckers.

Of course, it's a slab of doom cake on guitar; sounds really great on baritone; and I would say sounds pretty good on bass as well. Doom metal circuits generally do all these in my experience if you like the low and slow kind of thing. I don't think it's as much for shredding or dad rock.
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And the LED is a bit dim. Oh well! Can't change it now! IMG_20260313_144131315_LL.jpg
Will probably slap a graphic or drawing on it at some point
 
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Thanks folks! I am actually not very skilled. Check out some of the PTP pedals on Reddit. So clean it makes me want to barf. [Good example, just look at the wiring on any @Erik S build report. So clean it's dirty]. I mean, I just have my own aesthetic, yeah....
As for patience... Remember your first troubleshooting? You are just trading patience on the front end for patience on the back end. I'd say a big virtue of PTP is that it's dead(bug) easy to find the source of problems.

I just breadboarded a circuit five times last night and still couldn't get it to fire.

I think the opportunities for learnings of patience in this hobby are very ample
 
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I say all that to encourage anybody who is curious to jump in and give it a try. It's different, but very gratifying. I tried to make a little tutorial in my post on my Corroder build, but I'm also very happy to give advice and learnings to anybody who is interested.

I ptp'ed together Waylon McPherson's latest project on YouTube. It was nerve-wracking, and of course when I was done and it worked, I saw about 20 ways to improve it... if I only had the fortitude.

I do like the aesthetic of ptp so much that I will likely try it again, after I recover emotionally. It's a shame that I'm not a fuzz guy. Those circuits seem like a good place to start. I am a treble-boost guy, though, and some of those circuits seem ptp-friendly too.
 
Thanks folks! I am actually not very skilled. Check out some of the PTP pedals on Reddit. So clean it makes me want to barf. [Good example, just look at the wiring on any @Erik S build report. So clean it's dirty]. I mean, I just have my own aesthetic, yeah....
As for patience... Remember your first troubleshooting? You are just trading patience on the front end for patience on the back end. I'd say a big virtue of PTP is that it's dead(bug) easy to find the source of problems.

I just breadboarded a circuit five times last night and still couldn't get it to fire.

I think the opportunities for learnings of patience in this hobby are very ample
Some of that shit is so precise it's like brownian motion at the component leg and solder tip. Yikes. Looks like me on a good day
 
Some of that shit is so precise it's like brownian motion at the component leg and solder tip. Yikes. Looks like me on a good day
The dude in the video? He knows his stuff, has obviously planned it out, and is using a jig/third hand to position components accurately. All good practice, but not strictly necessary to make a functional circuit. I have minimal competence/just wade in there and figure out on the fly/hold and bend things mostly with my fingers and needle nose pliers.
 
Oh I see how disciplined and methodical he is. But a few moments when he's in there tight you see that muscle wiggle while he dials it in, which is only half as stable as me soldering anything ever. Makes me nervous just watching
 
Nah, man, you have an artist's eye that really works with ptp. There's something steampunk-esque about your circuits that is really cool. You can almost see a little flickering incandescent bulb swinging on a chain in the back of the box.

... maybe some water slowly dripping off the bulb and a blue cast to the scene
 
Hahaha that's a good metaphor for my life. I do like Blade Runner, but who doesn't?

Ha. I hope you're recovering from your "minor surgery". I've had a couple of those that, while minor for the surgeons, were well into the moderate range for the soreness in recovery.

In the immortal words of Steve Goodman, "It's not hard to get along with somebody else's troubles."
 
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