Triple Pedal Plans (Katana, TS, Blues Breaker)

[JDJudd]

Hi all - I started as a complete noob over the summer and now have a half dozen pedals under my belt. Thanks for shepherding me through the learning curve!

As often happens, I see a little success and think I can start innovating!

I'm thinking about housing three pedals in one 1590XX enclosure:
1. Cleaver (Keeley Katana)
2. Little Green Screamer (Tube Screamer)
3. Blue Breaker (Blues Breaker)

I was only going to do the Katana and the TS with PedalPCB's order-switch-pcb, but when I saw how much room I had, I thought I'd try and throw the Katana in there too.

I'd want the Katana to go first in the signal chain and then use the order-switch-pcb to select between the TS and the Blues Breaker.

Think that's doable?

How could I wire the Katana into the order-switching-pcb?

Here's how I anticipate laying it out in the housing and wiring it up:

 

[coltonius]

Okay, so a few things:

1. You can only flip-flop circuits that are next to each other (circuit A and B, circuit B and C; not A and C).
2. I would strongly urge you to reconsider putting an order toggle so close to the Katana footswitch.

To add an order switcher as you've described:
- input jack to Katana footswitch IN
- Katana footswitch OUT to order switcher IN
- Order switcher OUT to output jack

Then wire your Tubescreamer to S1/R1 and the Bluesbreaker to S2/R2 on the order switch.

Hopefully that makes sense!

EDIT: Looking at your drawing I think that's how you've proposed to wire everything up, it's just confusing that you have the 1st circuit placed in the middle of the enclosure and the 2nd + 3rd circuits on the outsides.

 

[JDJudd]

Okay, so a few things:

1. You can only flip-flop circuits that are next to each other (circuit A and B, circuit B and C; not A and C).
2. I would strongly urge you to reconsider putting an order toggle so close to the Katana footswitch.

To add an order switcher as you've described:
- input jack to Katana footswitch IN
- Katana footswitch OUT to order switcher IN
- Order switcher OUT to output jack

Then wire your Tubescreamer to S1/R1 and the Bluesbreaker to S2/R2 on the order switch.

Hopefully that makes sense!

EDIT: Looking at your drawing I think that's how you've proposed to wire everything up, it's just confusing that you have the 1st circuit placed in the middle of the enclosure and the 2nd + 3rd circuits on the outsides.

Thanks for the reply - It's nice to have another set of eyes take a peak at what I'm trying to figure out. Really boosts the confience.

I may not go for the three pedal build as it kinda messes up the layout I have planned.



When I saw I had room for a third pedal, that's why I thought about adding it in the middle. We'll see.

 

[Nostradoomus]

Cool! I would put the order switcher on a toggle somewhere else and put the Katana in the middle. I don’t order switch by stomping often enough to justify it haha.

 

[JDJudd]

Cool! I would put the order switcher on a toggle somewhere else and put the Katana in the middle. I don’t order switch by stomping often enough to justify it haha.

Agreed!

I picked up these switches to work with the order switching PCB: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VK7GWVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_4Uf1FbSQSWF8M

Think they’ll work?

Im also a bit flummoxed by the switch used for the katana. The PCB has six holes for where the switch needs to go. I’ve seen 3 and 9, but this six hole configuration is new to me. What should I grab?

 

[Nostradoomus]

That’s for a DPDT on/on toggle switch.

 

[JDJudd]

That’s for a DPDT on/on toggle switch.

This better?

Ximimark 4Pcs MTS-302 3PDT Mini Toggle Switch ON-ON 9 Pins 2 Files 6MM Rocker Switch Red Latching MTS-302 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GWGN6D4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_kLo1FbZCP739S?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Nostradoomus]

That’s fine for the bypass order switcher yes, but for the board mounted toggle switch separate from that, no.

Mini Toggle Switch DPDT On-On

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www.taydaelectronics.com

 

[JDJudd]

Thanks for your patience - this community has been a godsend this year.

 

[Nostradoomus]

No sweat!

 

[JDJudd]

Ok - now I'm just getting BONKERS.

I think I'll be able to fit the Katana just fine. Here's what I'm scheming next: How about using TWO order-switching switches to give me the following options:

• Switch #1 - Katana First or Last (Pre-effects Boost or Post-effects Boost)
• Switch #2 - Blues Breaker / TS10

See if I have this right:

1. Input jack to Switch #1 input
2. Switch #1 S1/R1 to Katana
3. Switch #1 S2/R2 to Switch #2 input/output
4. TS10 to Switch #2 S1/R1
5. BB to Switch #2 S2/R2
6. Switch #1 output to output jack

 

[coltonius]

Looks legit to me! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

 

[JDJudd]

Question - where would I wire the grounds of the input/output jacks?

 

[Danbieranowski]

Question - where would I wire the grounds of the input/output jacks?

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You can wire the ground of the left and right board to the input and output Jack, and link the grounds from the outer boards to the inner boards. Here’s a quick terrible drawing of what I mean.

 

[JDJudd]

You can wire the ground of the left and right board to the input and output Jack, and link the grounds from the outer boards to the inner boards. Here’s a quick terrible drawing of what I mean.
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Thanks man - solid. I thought this would be the case, but wanted a second set of eyes looking at it.

 

[Nostradoomus]

But also to the dc jack ground

 

[Danbieranowski]

But also to the dc jack ground

@JDJudd This would also be beneficial! haha.

 

[JDJudd]

Got it!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10158473341846487

 

[PoppaAdat]

Wow this is super cool, nice work! I stumbled upon this while searching for how to wire up a bi-color LED to the order switcher on a simple 2-loop switcher I want to build. I ordered the same order switcher that you are using here as well. Would you happen to know how I would go about adding a bi-color LED to that and using a 3PDT footswitch? Looking on Tayda they offer those LED's in Cathode, Anode, and I guess a version that is neither. I am very new to pedal building so I'm kinda lost on all that.

 

[JDJudd]

Wow this is super cool, nice work! I stumbled upon this while searching for how to wire up a bi-color LED to the order switcher on a simple 2-loop switcher I want to build. I ordered the same order switcher that you are using here as well. Would you happen to know how I would go about adding a bi-color LED to that and using a 3PDT footswitch? Looking on Tayda they offer those LED's in Cathode, Anode, and I guess a version that is neither. I am very new to pedal building so I'm kinda lost on all that.

I've been interested in using bi-color LEDs also, but as of yet haven't been successful. Keep me posted if you figure it out!

Thanks for the complement though - I only started building over the summer, so I'm pretty new too. These forums are AWESOME though. I'm sure someone will come along and give us the answer soon.