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What’s a good entry point in Dostoyevsky’s oeuvre?
I think that the largest prerequisite for Dostoyevsky is a love of deep philosophical waxing and detailed, slow moving story telling. It's not going to be for everyone but if you want to dive deep in to thoughts on the human condition then it'll be worth your while.

I think that The Brothers Karamazov is my favorite of his and would be a good start.

"“I love mankind," he said, "but I find to my amazement that the more I love mankind as a whole, the less I love man in particular.”"

So good.

Edit to add: it will also be helpful to do a quick study on how Russian naming customs work as it can get confusing sometimes as characters will sometimes refer to the same person in different ways: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Russia_Personal_Names

Some versions may have a list of the characters, their names, and nicknames which can be helpful.
 
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I think that the largest prerequisite for Dostoyevsky is a love of deep philosophical waxing and detailed, slow moving story telling. It's not going to be for everyone but if you want to dive deep in to thoughts on the human condition then it'll be worth your while.

I think that The Brothers Karamazov is my favorite of his and would be a good start.

"“I love mankind," he said, "but I find to my amazement that the more I love mankind as a whole, the less I love man in particular.”"

So good.

Funny you picked the Brothers Karamasov. It’s the one I tried to read years and years ago. I remember getting stuck on a very long passage detailing the religious rites of Father Zosime… I often think I should revisit that book.
 
Funny you picked the Brothers Karamasov. It’s the one I tried to read years and years ago. I remember getting stuck on a very long passage detailing the religious rites of Father Zosime… I often think I should revisit that book.
I don’t think I’d start with Brothers Karamazov—but that just be me and how I approached Dostoyevsky. (But, you certainly can!

My suggestions:

Notes from Underground is an extremely rich novella. If you don’t have a background in 19th century idealism or fundamentals of philosophy, I’d encourage you to look up things that are unfamiliar to you while you read to get the most out of it.

The Idiot is an oft overlooked novel of his that I think is excellent. It’s a bit more approachable than Crime and Punishment and Brothers Karamazov (i.e., smaller character list, more direct storyline).

You really can’t go wrong with Dostoyevsky, though.

If Russian lit is an interest, give Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita a shot.
 
Funny you picked the Brothers Karamasov. It’s the one I tried to read years and years ago. I remember getting stuck on a very long passage detailing the religious rites of Father Zosime… I often think I should revisit that book.
Yeah, if you're kinda sleepy and think you will lay down in the bed and read a couple of chapters of Brothers K. (or any of his books, really) you can expect to never get any further than two or three pages in but you will have a wonderful night's sleep :ROFLMAO:

It's definitely not casual reading.
 
I don’t think I’d start with Brothers Karamazov—but that just be me and how I approached Dostoyevsky. (But, you certainly can!

My suggestions:

Notes from Underground is an extremely rich novella. If you don’t have a background in 19th century idealism or fundamentals of philosophy, I’d encourage you to look up things that are unfamiliar to you while you read to get the most out of it.

The Idiot is an oft overlooked novel of his that I think is excellent. It’s a bit more approachable than Crime and Punishment and Brothers Karamazov (i.e., smaller character list, more direct storyline).

You really can’t go wrong with Dostoyevsky, though.

If Russian lit is an interest, give Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita a shot.
This is probably a much better recommendation, honestly. I gave my favorite of his and maybe not necessarily the best entry. The Idiot was my first of his and I loved it so much that my next was Brothers K and I loved it even more. After reading a couple others I went back to Brothers K and still found it my favorite of the lot. How it manages to stand out above already outstanding works blows my mind.
 
This is probably a much better recommendation, honestly. I gave my favorite of his and maybe not necessarily the best entry. The Idiot was my first of his and I loved it so much that my next was Brothers K and I loved it even more. After reading a couple others I went back to Brothers K and still found it my favorite of the lot. How it manages to stand out above already outstanding works blows my mind.
Definitely! I’m glad to hear there are more fans of The Idiot!

Have you read The Master and Margarita?
 
Definitely! I’m glad to hear there are more fans of The Idiot!

Have you read The Master and Margarita?

I have not, but I wrote it down to check out after I read your post.

After reading multiple Dostoyevsky novels I thought it meant that I would like other classic Russian literature so I got a copy of Anna Karenina and I don't think I made it 1/4 of the way through before putting it down :ROFLMAO:
 
I have not, but I wrote it down to check out after I read your post.

After reading multiple Dostoyevsky novels I thought it meant that I would like other classic Russian literature so I got a copy of Anna Karenina and I don't think I made it 1/4 of the way through before putting it down :ROFLMAO:
You’re not alone there. I don’t care for Tolstoy much. But, there are heaps of other Russian novelists I do enjoy. Just something about Tolstoy that doesn’t click for me.
 
Definitely! I’m glad to hear there are more fans of The Idiot!

Have you read The Master and Margarita?
I loved the Master and Margarita! Never has the devil been more facetious and fun.

I heard from Russian friends that the novel is so loved there that many expressions/sentences from it entered the russian language.

I’ll check The Idiot. Thanks!
 
You’re not alone there. I don’t care for Tolstoy much. But, there are heaps of other Russian novelists I do enjoy. Just something about Tolstoy that doesn’t click for me.

It's been a while since I read it, but I remember it feeling very tedious (which is saying something when talking about Russian lit!). Dostoyevsky is the good kind of tedious, I guess.

I really like long-winded and complex novels. The Count of Monte Cristo maybe being one of the best examples. Scaramouche is another good one. If you know of anything in that vein I am all ears (and eyes).
 
It's been a while since I read it, but I remember it feeling very tedious (which is saying something when talking about Russian lit!). Dostoyevsky is the good kind of tedious, I guess.

I really like long-winded and complex novels. The Count of Monte Cristo maybe being one of the best examples. Scaramouche is another good one. If you know of anything in that vein I am all ears (and eyes).
The Three Musketeers from Dumas is also very good. Not as dark and riveting as Monte Cristo though.
 
I loved the Master and Margarita! Never has the devil been more facetious and fun.

I heard from Russian friends that the novel is so loved there that many expressions/sentences from it entered the russian language.

I’ll check The Idiot. Thanks!
I like the story of Faust to start with, but Bulgakov is a genius and that book is incredible.
 
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Or is the assumption that you've ever read them? :unsure:
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Funny you picked the Brothers Karamasov. It’s the one I tried to read years and years ago. I remember getting stuck on a very long passage detailing the religious rites of Father Zosime… I often think I should revisit that book.

A similar thing happened when I was trying to get through Moby Dick. When Melville decided to turn the book into an advanced textbook of all things Cetacea it really became a slog to get through and I gave up. Not that I have no interest in whales, but oh man that was too much.

It's been a while since I read it, but I remember it feeling very tedious (which is saying something when talking about Russian lit!). Dostoyevsky is the good kind of tedious, I guess.

I really like long-winded and complex novels. The Count of Monte Cristo maybe being one of the best examples. Scaramouche is another good one. If you know of anything in that vein I am all ears (and eyes).

Maybe not quite so complex, but reading The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of la Mancha for the first time was absolutely mind-blowing. I remember reading the windmill scene and being flabbergasted because it happens so early on in the book. My mind reeled at the thought of what must be coming up with so many pages to go and we just had the one scene that everyone knows of the book already.
 
A similar thing happened when I was trying to get through Moby Dick. When Melville decided to turn the book into an advanced textbook of all things Cetacea it really became a slog to get through and I gave up. Not that I have no interest in whales, but oh man that was too much.



Maybe not quite so complex, but reading The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of la Mancha for the first time was absolutely mind-blowing. I remember reading the windmill scene and being flabbergasted because it happens so early on in the book. My mind reeled at the thought of what must be coming up with so many pages to go and we just had the one scene that everyone knows of the book already.
I was really surprised by how modern Don Quixote felt and how funny it was. You'd guess 400+ year old humor wouldn't still work today. But it does.
 
A similar thing happened when I was trying to get through Moby Dick. When Melville decided to turn the book into an advanced textbook of all things Cetacea it really became a slog to get through and I gave up. Not that I have no interest in whales, but oh man that was too much.



Maybe not quite so complex, but reading The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of la Mancha for the first time was absolutely mind-blowing. I remember reading the windmill scene and being flabbergasted because it happens so early on in the book. My mind reeled at the thought of what must be coming up with so many pages to go and we just had the one scene that everyone knows of the book already.
I've never even considered it - not sure why! I'll put it on the list, thanks!
 
I was really surprised by how modern Don Quixote felt and how funny it was. You'd guess 400+ year old humor wouldn't still work today. But it does.
Same here! I know that whatever translation you're reading obviously plays a part, but it's still such an amazing work. For being what is considered to be the first actual novel, Cervantes pretty much laid down the groundwork for almost every main genre out there. Comedy, drama, romance, action; it's all in there.
 
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