At a loss now. No idea what happened with this whole process of things. I'll happily ship this off if someone wants to take a stab at it (I pay well!). Haven't had this much trouble before and had failed components. Got about 40 pedals under my belt and this has truly stumped me.
Scope with a ground reference doesn't give a signal on pin 4. When I remove the ground reference I get a signal that seems to bounce between 16khz and 20khz
Let me take a look. I think Q3 was on the fritz so maybe that messed some of the voltages up. I get a signal at pin 5. Pretty much a clean sound. 8 and 12 I don't get guitar signal just clock noise. It's like a little squeaking pulse clock sound.
it was going right to -14 without r29. I swapped it out and it is no longer doing that but now the wooshing is gone. unfortunately no oscope near me so might just have to shelve this one for another day
so q3 the emitter and base are giving me continuity with no power connected. q5 same type of npn does not do that. like the base of q3 is going straight -14 but the schematic does not show that