Stereo Vibe

Chuck D. Bones

Circuit Wizard
At long last, it's done. Well, except for the paint job. Those are two modd'ed Photon Vibe boards inside. Left channel is yellow, Right is blue. Controls are (top row) BLEND, COLOR, BLEND, COLOR (bottom row) SPEED, DEPTH, SPEED, DEPTH. Top switch is SYNC, bottom switch is Series. The two channels can operate completely independently, they can be sync'ed and they can be run in series. Yellow and blue LEDs are the THROB indicators; green is ENGAGE.

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Here's the Robot Porn. Look carefully for mods. Most are on the top of the boards. Note that all resistors are 1/8W. The Photon is a tight board. Film caps in the audio path are WIMA or Panasonic. The one electrolytic cap in the audio path (C21) is tantalum. LFO caps are tantalum for minimum leakage.

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With the light shields installed. They were cut from a 6-pack of Abita Purple Haze lager. They butt up against the bottom cover.

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The LDRs are duals. I used them because they have a huge range, are matched, and I had 'em. The LDRs called out in the BOM would have worked just fine.

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I made a few mods to the LFO and lamp driver, including the addition of a SYNC switch that allows the Left Channel LFO to influence the Right Channel LFO. I also relocated the THROB LEDs so that they are brighter and are not dependent on the DEPTH setting. I ditched the HIGH, LOW and LEVEL controls. I hardwired the gain for unity. One of the LED trimmers was relocated to the front panel as the COLOR (COLOUR for you Aussies & Kiwis) control. The BLEND trimmer was rewired and moved to the front panel. At max, the blend is 50/50. At min, the blend is 20% dry and 80% wet.

Sounds great! By tweaking the SPEED controls in Sync mode the LFOs can be made to run in phase, out of phase or chaotic. Something I didn't expect (but should have) was the effect of the channels mixing in the room. You don't just get the swirling from left to right, the phase between the speakers keeps shifting and the effect is the blend is constantly moving. It's glorious.

There is a minor issue, which I'm still working on, in that if the lamp is allowed to turn completely off, there is a mild tick. Proper setting of the DEPTH and COLOR controls prevents the tick, but I'm looking to find another solution. NB: the LFO is not ticking, it is the lamp driver interacting with the power supply that causes the tick.

The Photon Vibe is a pretty good circuit, but it has one major problem in the power supply: The 15V regulator doesn't regulate. The reason is inadequate headroom. 78Lxx regulators need at least 2V of headroom under the best conditions, preferably more. The charge pump makes just over 17V when the lamp is off. When the lamp is on, the voltage drops to 16.5V or lower. The "18V" rail bounces around at the LFO rate and consequently the "15V" rail and Vref do the same. You can put a scope on the output of the pedal and see the LFO signal bleeding thru. My solution is to replace the 78L15 with a 78L12. Now the opamps get clean power and a stable Vref.

LFO mods
The LFO's bias is derived from the "18V" supply, which as I said, bounces around. Better to bias the LFO from something stable, so I use the regulated 12V rail to power the bias circuit. R11 now connects to 12V instead of 18V and R8 was changed to 10K.

At the bottom of the SPEED range, the LFO signal gets very weak. This is a consequence of the LFO design. To counter that, I did two things: increased C8 to 2.2uF and added 270K resistors in parallel with the two halves of the SPEED pot. The SPEED range is now 0.65Hz to 4Hz. The LFO amplitude still drops at lower speeds, but not nearly as much.

I replaced Q1 and Q2 with an MPSA13. That was a no-brainer and freed up some pads for wiring in the THROB LED between the collector and the 18V rail. Notice that I mounted Q1 "backwards" to take advantage of the pads freed up by removing Q2.

A SYNC switch was added to connect the output of the Left LFO (pin 2 of the SPEED pot) to the junction of C7 & C8 on the right LFO via a 100nF cap. Look carefully at the pix, that cap is an MLCC soldered directly to the SYNC switch. I tried several different configurations for Sync and this worked the best across the Speed range. With Sync engaged, setting the LFO SPEEDs the same (or very nearly the same) causes the Left & Right LFOs to sync up in phase. Move one of the SPEED controls up or down a little and they stay locked, but their relative phase changes. It's not hard to get them close to 180 degrees out of phase. Move the SPEED controls further apart and the right channel LFO locks onto some fraction of the left LFO. I've been able to achieve simple fractions like 1/2 or 2/3, as well as crazy fractions like 11/15. At some settings, the right channel LFO gets pretty chaotic.

Lamp Driver mods
I replaced Q3 with an MPSA13, which raises the driver's input impedance and allows me to change TR3, R22, R24 and R26 so that COLOR and DEPTH don't interact. R22 is now 100K, R24 is 10K, R26 is 68K and TR3 is replaced by a B250K pot. R32 is deleted because the LED is now wired to the LFO instead of the lamp driver.

Audio Path mods
I left the phase shifter stages alone, they are fine as-is. The LOW pot and C2 are deleted. C1 is 22nF. R33 and R4 are 2.2M. R5 is 75K. The HIGH pot, R25 and C18 are deleted. TR1 is hardwired. R16 is replaced with a C10K BLEND pot, a 6.8K resistor and a 10uF cap (see schematic for clarification). R28 is deleted and R30 is a jumper. The LEVEL pot is deleted, pads 2 and 3 are jumpered and a 100K anti-pop resistor is connect from pad 1 to pad 2.

A SERIES switch connects the Left channel input to either the input jack of the Right channel output.

That's about it. This box is definitely getting an acrylic pour. The schematic is on four pages for clarity, PDF is attached. Note that I have not yet installed the Disable. It kills the lamp drive when the pedal is in bypass mode. The intent is to reduce power consumption in bypass mode and prolong lamp life.
 

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Now that is epic. Gotta be fun as all get out, too.

I've never used an incandescent. Is it that much different?
 
Yes. The dynamics of an incandescent turning on and off are completely different from an LED. The way you can tell immediately if the car in front of you has LED or incandescent brake lights is by how quickly the light goes on or off. Same thing happens in the UniVibe and its clones. The LFO is sinusoidal, but the lamp and the LDR effectively skew the waveshape of the LFO. There is probably a way to mimic that behavior in circuitry.
 
Super wicked and trippy...! What a magic mystery machine, goota read that a few times, wrap my head around it and try to find some digestive sleep to see if it settles in. I'd be so pumped to build this, me as a vibe-o-holic....!

Thanks for translating 'color' for us in the colonies. Could you as a next thing change from imperial to metric in your neck of the woods...? Trust me it's better...
 
The Photon Vibe is a pretty good circuit, but it has one major problem in the power supply: The 15V regulator doesn't regulate. The reason is inadequate headroom. 78Lxx regulators need at least 2V of headroom under the best conditions, preferably more. The charge pump makes just over 17V when the lamp is off. When the lamp is on, the voltage drops to 16.5V or lower. The "18V" rail bounces around at the LFO rate and consequently the "15V" rail and Vref do the same. You can put a scope on the output of the pedal and see the LFO signal bleeding thru. My solution is to replace the 78L15 with a 78L12. Now the opamps get clean power and a stable Vref.
Would substituting a 78L12 for the 78L15 be recommended for someone building an otherwise conventional Photon?
 
Some will say this thread is too old to post. Maybe. But what I have to say belongs here and nowhere else.

The Photon Vibe consumes about 80mA, says the display of my bench supply.
The MAX1044 / 7660 (they seem to belong to the same company these days) datasheet does not really say how much current the unit is capable of delivering. This probably depends on some finer details too. Estimates and rumors range from 10mA to 40mA. Certainly not the 80mA the photon vibe draws. God alone knows what a certain specimen of a certain manufacturer does...

The LT1054 however has a guaranteed output current of 100mA.
It is a plug-in replacement in this case. The connection between pins 1 and 8 is no hinderance, since it needs to see a low level on pin 1 in order to shut it down.

I swear it sounds different - better!
 
Your point is well taken and LT1054 is a superior choice for this circuit due to its higher current capacity and lower losses. But...
Most charge pumps are rated for output current in voltage inverting mode (negative output voltage). You're measuring input current. The charge pump in the Photon Vibe is configured for voltage doubling, so the currents have to be rescaled. If you're measuring 80mA going in, the DC current draw on the 18V rail is <40mA. The charge pump's switches all carry the peak current. In most cases, the duty factor is 50%, so the peak current is 2x the average (DC) current. The LT1054 has a regulating mode, which we don't use in the Photon Vibe. But if we did, the duty factor would be <50% which would make the peak current higher. I mention this because the LT1054 datasheet rates the 100mA output current for a regulated 5V output.

Are you using a 78L15 or 78L12?
 
Chuck,
sorry if my answer is delayed. I don´t look into this forum too often.
Ah, interesting. Yes this is certainly some finesse I don´t know about. I usually believe in the good and that those things are considered by the designers. And they probably were...
But then again, the thing with the 15V regulator... I use 12V as per your suggestion.
I could swear the Photon vibe sounds better with the 1054, but this may be self-betrayal and wishful thinking, something we musicians are prone to;)
Anyway, with the changes recommended, particularly the LFO improvement, it is eminently more useable.
Thanks for your effort.
 
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