Pedal trio for trumpet player

[Diynot]

Was approached by a fellow marching band dad who plays trumpet in a few local bands who really wanted to dip his toe into the world of pedals. After setting him up with some of my personal pedals to try out he decided that these were keepers and commissioned me to build some for him. He said he had liked Speed Racer as a kid so that’s what I went with for basic bitch art. So we have an Octarock, a VIIB, and a HAARP (now with correctly oriented regulator)


Aside from aforementioned regulator snafu builds were as good as any PPCB project. Love the Octarock and VIIB and am currently building a third Octarock for another local musician. The HAARP is fun, but really a gimmicky pedal. As far as how they sound on trumpet? What you can actually hear over the dry acoustic sound is pretty darn cool. I did notice that getting the cardioid mic output to interface with the pedal chain is def a challenge. Using a Behringer Ultragain mic 100 tube pre/DI and though it works, still wondering if there is a better option. As a long time pedal user it does take me by surprise when musicians don’t understand things like basic pedal use or signal chain, but also upsets me a bit when they just want me to be their tech and not learn how to use the tools given. Meh, rant over

 

[jcpst]

Those look great. Octarock on a trumpet is a good idea.

As far as signal chains, I used to jam with a sax player that used a deluxe memory man. He went:
Sennheiser 421 -> Shure lo-z to high-z transformer -> pedals -> Mesa-Boogie Bass Rig

 

[Diynot]

Those look great. Octarock on a trumpet is a good idea.

As far as signal chains, I used to jam with a sax player that used a deluxe memory man. He went:
Sennheiser 421 -> Shure lo-z to high-z transformer -> pedals -> Mesa-Boogie Bass Rig

Might have to check out that Shure doohickey. The Trumpet player runs an audio technica pro 35 that has an inline pre so that may be the bottleneck

 

[jcpst]

If you wanted to go DIY, you could build ThatMicPre

 

[Erik S]

If you wanted to go DIY, you could build ThatMicPre

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Just don’t mix up that 48v plug floating around your pedalboard!

 

[GAStan]

Great graphix but where's Trixie and Chim-Chim?

Nice pedals!!!

 

[Mentaltossflycoon]

Was approached by a fellow marching band dad who plays trumpet in a few local bands who really wanted to dip his toe into the world of pedals. After setting him up with some of my personal pedals to try out he decided that these were keepers and commissioned me to build some for him. He said he had liked Speed Racer as a kid so that’s what I went with for basic bitch art. So we have an Octarock, a VIIB, and a HAARP (now with correctly oriented regulator)
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Aside from aforementioned regulator snafu builds were as good as any PPCB project. Love the Octarock and VIIB and am currently building a third Octarock for another local musician. The HAARP is fun, but really a gimmicky pedal. As far as how they sound on trumpet? What you can actually hear over the dry acoustic sound is pretty darn cool. I did notice that getting the cardioid mic output to interface with the pedal chain is def a challenge. Using a Behringer Ultragain mic 100 tube pre/DI and though it works, still wondering if there is a better option. As a long time pedal user it does take me by surprise when musicians don’t understand things like basic pedal use or signal chain, but also upsets me a bit when they just want me to be their tech and not learn how to use the tools given. Meh, rant over

Dude needs a good delay now like Cuong Vu.

 

[Nostradoomus]

Might have to check out that Shure doohickey. The Trumpet player runs an audio technica pro 35 that has an inline pre so that may be the bottleneck

the shure inline transformer is the best solution really, cheaper than doing it yourself or close to it

 

[Diynot]

Great graphix but where's Trixie and Chim-Chim?

Nice pedals!!!

I actually thought ab using chim chim and Spirtle’s faces as the the Up and Down labels on the Octarock, but couldn’t decide which would be which. Decided it would be better to just stay basic since this player has next to no experience with pedals in general

 

[Diynot]

Dude needs a good delay now like Cuong Vu.

He does have a Deep Blue delay of mine on there now. Building in batches so as not to strain his pocket book.

 

[Diynot]

the shure inline transformer is the best solution really, cheaper than doing it yourself or close to it

if you take out the inline pre on his mic (apparently just a high pass filter) it has some weird mini XLR on it so I would have to adapt the adapter. Shouldn’t a basic jfet buffer do the same thing?

 

[CheapSuitG]

Builds look great!

Love the speed racer look. I mocked up a mach 1 with it but went a different direction. Need to find a pedal for it now.....

 

[Erik S]

Just got me to dig out my trumpet and blow a few notes.

Might try hooking up some pedals later.

 

[Diynot]

Just got me to dig out my trumpet and blow a few notes.

Might try hooking up some pedals later.

Nice! I have watched a lot of videos lately of using pedals with brass/woodwinds. Seems the most popular types are auto wah/envelope filter, distortion (careful where you point that mic wicked feedback imminent), and delays. The octave is super cool though

 

[Feral Feline]

A 1:10 transformer is what you need to fab a DIY solution.




Certainly NOT cheap, but ...

VOCO-LOCO

As used by Randy Brecker:

As well as Vince Mai:

There's also the HOTSHOT DM-1, and probably a few others in Radial's stable.

https://www.radialeng.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/HotShotDM-1_Applications_Add-Effects.jpg

In addition to Radial Engineering's Voco‑Loco:

Eventide MixingLink Microphone...

TC Helicon Mic Mechanic 2...

Boss VE‑22 Vocal Performer...

TC Helicon VoiceLive 3 Extreme...


A small mixer would work...
Mackie Mix 5, Yamaha AG03, or ART USB Mix
...according to this Radiohead geekout site.



Can be as simple as the Audix impedance-matching dingle-dangle-dongle:

Using guitar pedals for vocals — DIY Music Guide

How to connect a dynamic vocal mic to your guitar pedal effects.

www.diy-music-guide.com

STEVE ALBINI's stacked DI method:

Like the Audix, but probably cheaper:





There's the Shure thing, Nostradoomus mentioned, like the dongles but without the dangle.

From what I've read, it's better to have some sort of preamp going as well, though.





I like Zorg's BLOW!, but alas it's not one of the DIY projects offered by Zorg.

There's a kit to add phantom power to older Blow units, but not a kit for the BLOW!, itself.



EVENTIDE's MIXING LINK

ROLLS PM350b

Get the manual with schematic from this PDF.

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Thread 'DIY Mic Pre-Amp?'

Apr 17, 2023

Hey gang,

I am addicted to building pedals now thanks to Pedal PCB. My girlfriend is a singer and I want to build her a pedal board so that she can sing with EQ, compression, reverb, etc while she sings. The problem is that I don't know how to get from the microphone into the pedals. Are there any good DIY solutions? I would really love a DIY mic pre-amp in the stomp box format. Does this exist?

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[Diynot]

@Feral Feline yeah, I looked at the vocoloco but that is well out of the budget for this player. The eventide looks pretty cool but probably more than he wants to spend. I am going to try my PPCB simple jfet buffer after the behringer and if that doesn’t work I’ll start formulating a new plan. I appreciate the info for sure. I was looking at the Radial hotspot ABo as an option to be able to send his direct to the board if the VIIB or MiniMu ever crapped out so he doesn’t lose signal