SOLVED Blue Breaker.... weird question / comparison

GenoBluzGtr

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I built a Blue Breaker a few weeks back. Sounds fantastic... sounds very close to the original Marshall pedal... I plan to build more.

I had bought a BYOC kit several months before, forgot I had it. But I found it, and decided to build it this weekend. However, it sounds nothing like the Blue Breaker or the original pedal. More gain, but not in a good way. Sounds "cheaper" and less hi-fi. The Range of the Tone and Drive control seems off, and at some setting below halfway on either of those, the volume takes a big hit (won't get above unity.

I thought I had made some errors, but I re-examined it and the build docs and it is all correct. I compared the schematics and here's what I found.... (see attached .pdf). The biggest thing I can find is that the input / output impedances are WAY off. The Blue Breaker uses 2.2M on the input and 1M on the output, where the "L'il Breaker uses 470K and 100K respectively. A couple of capacitor differences but I don't think those have much of an impact on gain/clipping etc. Also the 1n914s / 1n4148s are pretty identical.

Any thoughts on why the two pedals would sound SO different? All other values are identical (pots are 9mm on the smaller version, but same tapers/values). What impact does input/output impedance have on the gain/clipping/etc??
 

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Took about 1 minute of visual inspection to find it. Your measurements pointed me in the right direction, making the search a little quicker.

Except for C5, and maybe R1, they ARE identical. Mind you, I didn't visually check any other components.

Your description of it sounding like opamp clipping was spot on because with the bias screwed up, that's what was happening.
 
Thanks! Nice to know I'm learning something... Just need to work on my eyesight and attention to detail. I checked those color codes twice after building, and the "Red" looked just like "Brown" to me... but you caught it right away. Guess at 57 years old, it's time for the illuminated magnifier! Thanks again!
 
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