I'll try Chris.. I tried making the Echopathetic from effectslayouts.. had the placement of the lower center resistors all wonky and it was a single 3205 board.. and Bricks, think that's what killed it for a LOT of people, on the radio or the vid with Helena, all was ok... he made decent surf rock and that mid ground between rock and country occupied by Ronstadt and Eagles. Enough thread jacking, I await the next composition from GotA's workbench