Paragon Schematic Questions

[ntuncer]

Hello all, I have some questions about Paragon schematic and components as I am new and deep dive on King of Tone universe I am sorry if my questions have already discussed. Probably some values are changed in time as improvement or when people share their own tracing but here they are:

• Why there are 2 different common C1 values 10nf and 22nf?
  • Is it an improvement during time or some misleading of the information on the internet?
  • What is the tonal differences what is expected to use 10nf or22nf?
• Why there are 2 different common R3 values 1k /100k either for low or high gain and 10k for low gain?
  • Is it an improvement during time or some misleading of the information on the internet?
  • What is the tonal differences between 1k and 10k values? Any differences also on the gain pot to adjust apart of total gain changes?
• Why there are 2 different common C2 values 100p and 750p ?
  • Is it an improvement during time or some misleading of the information on the internet?
  • What is the tonal differences what is expected to use 100p or 750p?
  • What is the tonal differences between ceramic and MCC caps in C2?
• I'd prefer to use always metal film resistors but I read that R6, R9 and R10 resistors should be carbon films.
  • Why they should be carbon films? any impact on the tone?
  • any expected tonal differences between carbon composition and carbon film resistors on R6, R9 and R10?

Cheers!

 

[PJS]

Not sure about the others but R3 changes refer to the fact the the original King of Tone either or both sides can be ordered either standard or high gain. I believe high gain is slightly more gain but still not what you would call a high gain pedal. The only change between standard and high gain seems to be the value of that resistor.

 

[giovanni]

Let’s see, iirc, a higher value for C1 means more bass going into the pedal. Similarly I believe a higher C2 means more bass in the first gain stage feedback loop which probably gives more humph. @PJS is correct about R3 (it affects the first stage’s gain).
And I have no idea why carbon vs metal film would make any tonal difference whatsoever.

 

[Boba7]

- It's been shown multiple times that the input cap is 22n on the KOT, so you can use 22n for C1
- 1k is low gain, 100k is higher gain. Higher gain means a bit more gain, definitely not "high gain". It's an option when you order a KOT.
- C2 is 100p. There was one picture showing a weird 750pf in that spot, but it was not possible to actually measure that cap to be sure of its value. I would use 100p.
- Carbon vs metal : I use metal. Your choice. Shouldn't make a big difference anyways

 

[Barry]

I took Chuck D Bones advice and left R3 1k and put in a 250KC drive pot, very happy with the result

 

[Robert]

I'm fairly confident that the newer version has a 10n for C1, but this was previously 22n so either would be fine.

I'm not as confident about the 750pF.... I know what was seen, I've seen the pictures, but I'm not entirely sure what we're looking at.
Until I can personally put a DMM on it I'd stick with 100pF.

 

[ntuncer]

I'm fairly confident that the newer version has a 10n for C1, but this was previously 22n so either would be fine.

I'm not as confident about the 750pF.... I know what was seen, I've seen the pictures, but I'm not entirely sure what we're looking at.
Until I can personally put a DMM on it I'd stick with 100pF.

What about R3 value between the Pauper and Paragon schematics? It is 10K for Pauper and 1K for Paragon as low gain.

 

[ntuncer]

Hello again, I am checking Pauper schematic, for the distortion part I expect to see 1S1588s for hard clipping but there are only 4 MA856s as clipping diodes. Am I missing something?