Pro-10 Build (piling on the bandwagon)

MichaelW

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Seeing all the recent Pro-10 build reports motivated me to build mine out yesterday.

I'm down to my last couple of overdrive/distortion PCB's and I swear I'm swearing off of them.......(that's a lot of swearing.....:))

Seriously, I've mentioned in some other posts that I think that my "kid in the candy store" phase of building overdrives is coming to a close.
I think I've just about built every genre available and really most of them sound pretty darn good if somewhat the same.

The Pro-10 doesn't disappoint, it does pretty much what I expected it to. (Which is not a bad thing). As the ad copy claims, it's a modified ODR-1 into a modified Bluesbreaker. And that's exactly what it sounds like to me.

I appreciate the simplicity of the control layout. I did some side by side comparisons with my actual Nobels ODR-1 Mini. They have the same overall character but the Nobels has that VERY pronounced low end that is dialed out in the Pro-10 green side. So definitely very cool. As much as I like the stock ODR-1 (I've had it for many years) most of the time it's unusable for me. All that low end tends to muddy things up in a mix. I expect the Pro-10 Green side to "cut through" a lot better.

On the Blue side, I socketed the diodes just to mess around a bit. I know from experience with the many BB based circuits I've built that I like BA282 clippers in that circuit. So that's what I have in there now. But I might experiment with the original 4148's and maybe even some BAT4x's just for something a little different sounding.

This was also my first build with no build docs. I actually found that building off a BOM.txt seemed much more intuitive. Everything is sequential and I dig that.
Having said that this board has a crap ton of components and I spent a long time staring at the board trying to find where a particular part went:)

I used a 2N2222A for the 2N3904 because I didn't have one.
I did have some good NOS J201's (at least so far I haven't come across any bad ones) so used that on the Green side.
Oh and I'm sure someone will call out the "copulating capacitors". BOM called for a 120p. I was originally going to just use a 100p but then decided throw a 20p on top of it to get it a wee bit closer to spec.

It was a pretty dense and tight build but kudos to @PedalPCB's layouts it all made sense, fit together and the build was super smooth.

I was trying to capture a little bit of the vibe of the original pedal with the top hat knobs and Davies tone knobs. Those are the first time I've used actual Davies knobs. wow! Big difference in quality from the knock off's I've been using. Also, no one seems to have the 23mm Delta knobs, closest thing I could find was the numbered version which are the same as I used on my Dumbloid build. I still think they look pretty cool and work aesthetically.

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This somehow makes me feel like I'm looking at Sim City......

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Nice build! Where did you get those fancy cables? They look pretty cool.
Love the tagline! I have you ever seen Pat Metheny's rant on Kenny G when he overdubbed a track with Louis Armstrong? To me that was on the verge of sacrilege.....apparently Pat felt even more strongly about than I did:) it must be on Youtube somewhere.

Anyways.....those are home made cables using Mogami W2314 and Squareplug plugs.

I started making all my own guitar and pedal cables a while ago. Much better quality control and when they don't work I can chew out the guy that made them......:)
 
Love the tagline! I have you ever seen Pat Metheny's rant on Kenny G when he overdubbed a track with Louis Armstrong? To me that was on the verge of sacrilege.....apparently Pat felt even more strongly about than I did:) it must be on Youtube somewhere.

Anyways.....those are home made cables using Mogami W2314 and Squareplug plugs.

I started making all my own guitar and pedal cables a while ago. Much better quality control and when they don't work I can chew out the guy that made them......:)

Man, I hadn't heard that rant or about that music crime. At least Natalie Cole was Nat's daughter, that is most foul, Kenny. I try not to be too harsh on musicians that I don't enjoy but exhibit great skill like Wynton or Kenneth G but I'm with Pat.

SP400 w mogami is my jam and nice build!
 
Love the tagline! I have you ever seen Pat Metheny's rant on Kenny G when he overdubbed a track with Louis Armstrong? To me that was on the verge of sacrilege.....apparently Pat felt even more strongly about than I did:) it must be on Youtube somewhere.

Anyways.....those are home made cables using Mogami W2314 and Squareplug plugs.

I started making all my own guitar and pedal cables a while ago. Much better quality control and when they don't work I can chew out the guy that made them......:)
I believe I have seen the Pat Metheny rant you are talking about. I don't feel as strongly as he does about Kenny G, but I can definitely understand his point of view as a fellow jazz guitarist. He kinda gave everyone who grew up in the 80s the wrong idea about what jazz is.

Thanks for the info on the cables! Those things look really cool. I might have to make some of them because I need some custom cables anyway!
 
While I'm not a big fan of low gain overdrives as a whole, I do think this turned out great. Your build here shows a lot of improvement in both soldering, component placement and off board wiring. Keep it up. And stop cramming everything in a 1590B, give yourself some room to work with and expand upon the example here that you have shown what you're capable of. It's been a while...View attachment 27326
It's all practice and building my chops to to tackle the Total Recall someday.....HAH!
 
While I'm not a big fan of low gain overdrives as a whole, I do think this turned out great. Your build here shows a lot of improvement in both soldering, component placement and off board wiring. Keep it up. And stop cramming everything in a 1590B, give yourself some room to work with and expand upon the example here that you have shown what you're capable of. It's been a while...View attachment 27326

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That's a great build, cheers! This is my first time hearing about this PCB, I want to check this out now.

Since you have the diodes socketed, you might experiment by removing the hard clipping diodes from the ODR-1. I've built a bunch of ODR-1s that way, it's one of my favorite overdrives.
 
That's a great build, cheers! This is my first time hearing about this PCB, I want to check this out now.

Since you have the diodes socketed, you might experiment by removing the hard clipping diodes from the ODR-1. I've built a bunch of ODR-1s that way, it's one of my favorite overdrives.
You mean just run them without the clippers?
 
Yes, just remove the two hard clipping diodes, leave the soft. I prefer it that way, really opens up the sound. YMMV
Well I only socketed the MBB side. The ODR side is soldered in. But it's an interesting notion. What does it sound like with only the soft clippers and transistors?
 
Another inspiring build report, MichaelW.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with copulating capacitors, we all need a little lovin' or love-in de temps en temps. No cap-shaming here.

As for the BA282s, 4148s and BAT4Xs — leave all your options open.
Put the highest forward voltage diodes in the circuit, put the others on a on-off-on switch. When the switch is off, the board-mounted higher-FV diodes are in play, but switch to either of the lower voltage diodes and they take over effectively putting the board-mounted ones out of circuit.

If you put Green LEDs on the board, then just about anything else you try (socket one of the switch positions) will trump the Green LEDs and work.
 
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