The Gatordrive

The Gator

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Not sure how many people saw this as I didn't actually post it as a build report I did it in the Gator Drive thread and Chuck's Boneyard. Pedalbuilder stated that I should do a proper build thread here.
This started as a modified Timmy two years ago. I was able to modify it to join a contest as there's really not many parts to it. After that I had help and encouragement from several well-known people on The Forum. Chuck D. Bones, Szukalski, Cooder, and Steviejr92.
Chuck help me develop the circuit further into what I was originally wanting. I took the circuit that I like the most and turned it into the Gator Drive. It is a two-stage Overdrive with a full complement of tone controls. Sounds great with extremely light gain settings in hard or soft clipping. And it's great for blending the two. The hard clipping is Punchy and compressive. It also will get heavy gain settings that sound great. All the way up into fuzz territory.
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The green on the enclosure is actually GM automotive paint . The color is 1967-68 GM Verdoro green metallic. It was used on Pontiac firebirds, GTOs, LeMans, etc.
When I was a kid in the 70s, my mom drove a Verdoro Green Firebird and that definitely left an impression on me.

Szukalski did the layout and I love it. Print on both sides, points grouped together for easy connectorization. Reduced wiring and plenty of room to easily solder.
I know, I know... I'm tooting my own horn here, but I feel like this overdrive is unique in the way that it has two stages of gain it's not a dual Overdrive. It seems like dual overdrives most of the time have level gain and tone controls and they can be switched in order which is pretty cool. Whichever circuit is last between the two, that tone control actually dictates what you hear.
This circuit, having two stages is different in the way that the tone controls are an overall setting, they don't fight each other. The game stages are set the way they are intentionally. The second stage is op-amp clipping. It can be added or removed. A lot of overdrives that can do heavy gain don't sound very good in low gain settings in my opinion. This circuit sounds really good with low gain soft clipping settings, low gain hard clipping settings, and very natural low gain settings with a combination of the two. Again just my opinion. If you dime every knob but the level and kick the switch up into hot and dirty, it becomes a fuzz pedal. And that's a lot of fun!
 
That's cool.

You should post some sound clips.

What inspired you to mod the Timmy, what's the sound you're after?

The ORANGE do a really great job at cascading their gain stages. I'd be interested in a side by side.
 
Well honestly it started out trying to find a drive that I liked for Rockabilly with a Gretsch. Also, I didn't like many drives with the Strat either. So clarity and mid forward was important. Then I started playing with the second stage of the opamp. I made the Stratodrive, then the Stratodrive deluxe. It pushes the second opamp stage to the power rails getting a decent compressive hard clipping sound that blended with the soft clipping that existed. After the low parts contest is when Chuck helped me understand how to refine it and make it sound really good.
I will post some sound clips this weekend.
 
I don't connect with most scooped distortions. I find it tends to force the guitar to fight with other elements.

What do you mean by refine here? Like tune the voicing, cut unnecessary components clean up noise etc?

I haven't messed much with cascaded gain yet tbh. I understand the soft clipping before hard. I think ehx fuzzes are neat in that it's repeated soft clipping.
 
Yeah it's not scooped. It's mid-forward, and then has the mid as a cut for anyone that wants to reduce the mids for a particular guitar they are using or particular sound for the type of music they're playing.
 
Thank you you MattG! I of course didn't think about changing it to make lit Gator eyes until after the circuit boards were made LOL. But then I just couldn't let it go. I did a mock-up with just an image and the lights and man it looked cool so I just figured out how to rearrange clr's and LEDs on the circuit board to get it to work.
 
This was a nice one to verify. I didn’t plan on boxing it, so I soldered the 3PDTs with right angle connectors (for build speed).
Needless to say, I regret that and will have some desoldering to do when I’m back from holiday!
 
I absolutely love this thing on so many levels — from tinkering with a circuit to making it suit your personal needs (what DIY is really about!); to the sweet Pontiac Verdoro Green (big Pontiac fan!); and the gator-skin racing-stripe 😻 needs mentioning!!! Plus the gator-skin also used to differentiate the Swamp-Mode controls from the rest... the mean-looking gator-face and LEDs going from green to red...
Oooh sssoo much checkered-flag win. 🏁




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I have to build this at some point.
 
Feral Feline <--------This guy gets it!
I am a big Jerry Reed fan! When I think gators, I don't think about Florida, I think about Louisiana! Cajun Country! I like to tie in a hotrod theme if I can, as well as, I just like a good gimmick.
It is hard to tell from the pics, but the racing stripe and everything that looks white, is actually GM Cameo Ivory. 1968 Firebird "HO" models had a stripe down of Cameo Ivory the side with the letters HO.
That's where the idea originated. Screenshot_20240811_064341_Chrome.jpg
 
WICKED Firebird!

Pontiac was the first big manufacturer to put a hood-mounted tach on from factory.
I just spotted one of the Tempests yesterday that had a 4-cylinder engine in it; when John Delorean couldn't convince the GM brass to give him money for development of a racy little 4-pot engine, he just took a 389 and chopped it in half, stuck it in front of a transaxle for better weight distribution... IIRC he was also behind the Firebird's Sprint 6 engine. I'll have to post some pics in another thread; my local car show broke records yesterday with 942 cars, previous record was 918...

Thanks for the info about the stripe, as I had no idea it was a Cameo colour. 🤟
 
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Tempests are absolutely badass!
A friend of my dad's had a little white Tempest with a 215 in it and a 2 speed Powerglide. That little sucker was quick as s***.
That sounds like an amazing car show they don't get that big around here but boy they used to. I try and catch everyone I can around here.
 
All right I made some sound clips of various settings and various guitars for those who are not already familiar. Some of them aren't very good LOL. Sometimes my fingers just don't do what my brain tells them to do. The older I get the worse it gets. Please ignore my fumble fingers and focus on the tones.
Listen to Gatordrive Clips, a playlist by dcwwwcp on #SoundCloud
 
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I’m only halfway through your clips, but so far I like it all! To me, it retains the core goodness of the Timmy, which is letting the guitar and amp shine through - but it takes versatility to the max. I feel like this could be all the dirt most people really need.

That settles it, I’m going to have to build one! Maybe two, I think my neighbor might enjoy it.

Which amp(s) did you use in those clips? Is your Strat in standard tuning or tuned down at all?
 
Feral Feline <--------This guy gets it!
I am a big Jerry Reed fan! When I think gators, I don't think about Florida, I think about Louisiana! Cajun Country! I like to tie in a hotrod theme if I can, as well as, I just like a good gimmick.
It is hard to tell from the pics, but the racing stripe and everything that looks white, is actually GM Cameo Ivory. 1968 Firebird "HO" models had a stripe down of Cameo Ivory the side with the letters HO.
That's where the idea originated.View attachment 79916
Wow,Firebird what a car.In my opinion best cars from USA from 60's 70's.My dream car is a Mustang Shelby 67-69.Only a dream.Youre Firebird is really beatufull.And guitar nerds like iwe also car nerds and take care about things that we love.Metal till the grave
 
MattG - yeah I think it is a great versatile drive. The only amp I used is a 68 Vibrolux Reverb. Really clean. It was on 2...lol. I didn't give an example of this, but this circuit can really slam an amp if you want.
The strat is a 2008 stock American Standard. Just tuned standard. Open E.
 
Rackumusik - The Firebird is not actually mine. That is an image from the internet I used as an example of an HO Firebird in verdoro green metallic. I just used it as the inspiration for the hot rod aspect of the theme for the graphics on the Gator Drive.
My mom had a 67 Firebird in this color with a 326 cu 350 HP in it. That's what we rode around in when we were kids. When I was a kid I was in love with that car.
 
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