Your best/favorite high gain pedal combo's of today
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DGWVI
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In my opinion, it's the best stackable classic drive pedal.
My favorite stack is either with another Rat or going into a (op-amp) Muff.
I generally have one of my Rats set for a lower medium gain thing that cleans up with softer playing, the next is usually maxed out with the filter zeroed out, and the Muff, I have the tone about 1 o'clock, and sustain usually noon or higher.
I've liked Bluesbreaker and Klon types going into the Rat, but haven't found one I've wanted to keep permanently. A lot of people like Tube Screamer type circuits for boosting the rat, but it makes it a bit too nasally shrill for me, and I'm not a fan of the TS sound to begin with.
Laundryroom David
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I was not a Rat fan. Then I built one (stock Rat specs, nothing fancy). Aaaaaand it’s been on my board ever since. I am a convert.
djmiyta
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the more posts I read the about the rat I just might bust out with one tonight ( a board etched that is) kinda hunting for one now
Any body have any experience with beavis 4 knob rat? I'm sure theres probably more mods out there but T4KR has a lot of options or again just build one stock?
Any body have any experience with beavis 4 knob rat? I'm sure theres probably more mods out there but T4KR has a lot of options or again just build one stock?
djmiyta
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If not a tubescreamer fan (Which I'm not a hater nor lover of) try a Nux green OD still really pretty cheap and for me kicks every pedal I've thrown at it up several notches super quiet and clean and nice sweep on the tone only the tight metal pedal refused to comply with it.But It enhances every pedal after it. I wanted to trace it but saw it was 90% SMT and I don't want to get into that quite yet
but looking forward to trying a rat with it once I decide what to build The Nux has turned a couple of unusable pedals to me into usable tools
changing the topic real quick anybody use any blackstar pedals? I hear them and they sound really good to my ears.
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DGWVI
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I vote stock. The Ruetz mod changes the Rat too much for me to endorse it
DGWVI
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It's almost certainly a Tube Screamer clone. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even change any values.
I've got a mini TS clone on hand that I keep just to try stacking and to see if my tastes have changed. So far, they haven't. Can't jive with the particular clean bleed or mid focus of TS-derived circuits.
djmiyta
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yeah I have one of those mini Ibanez screamer too that I've used maybe 2 times I wouldn't doubt the /Nux is some derivative of it but wayyyyyyyy better and so cheap that it wont hurt if you dont like it
djmiyta
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Cool I got a modded DS-1 and a stock 1 and a late model muff this is a combo I havent tried thank you
Feral Feline
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I was like LaundryroomDavid, I didn't like Rats but built one anyway and loved it.
I built mine so it could be Stock, Turbo, Fat (and if I pull the LEDs out of their sockets I get the Deucetone "Clean") — and then I added the Gord Tranter mods to retain more bass.
I saw no point in building a completely stock Rat when a simple switch on the clipping diodes lets you try a couple of variants.
Mine does stock, variants AND sounds great with bass.
Also before building one, decide whether you want stock "Filter" (turning to the right kills the highs) or wired backwards to add highs turning clockwise like the vast majority of tone controls in the world.
djmiyta
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Anybody use a KOT to boost a high gain pedal? And how about Katzenkonig ,Ionosphere(something close to that) , Sonic Titan (just recently built and what an absolute killer pedal and incredibly loud). I think I'm gonna focus on the next few new builds being older circuits
Just for the hell of it whats anyone's guess as to how many different pedals from all the different pedal companies there are ? 10? 20? 50?thousand?
my uneducated guess would be somewhere in the 25-30,000 range If I was close in my guess Ive built only about 0.6667 percent of that so theres a lot more to build
Just for the hell of it whats anyone's guess as to how many different pedals from all the different pedal companies there are ? 10? 20? 50?thousand?
my uneducated guess would be somewhere in the 25-30,000 range If I was close in my guess Ive built only about 0.6667 percent of that so theres a lot more to build
szukalski
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The question is more, how many different pedal blueprints are there? I’d be guessing twenty at best.
Grubb
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I haven't used my Paragon to boost other pedals, but I might try it now that you have suggested the idea.
Nobody has mentioned the PedalPCB Tyrian or Sanguine in this thread, but I really like them both. Super high gain, very amp like. Both have a different character, I think about them like they are two different amp channels (probably because originally they were!) Anyone playing heavy music without a tube amp should probably build both.
I hope you have built a Rat by now? I built mine so it has different clipping diode options and you can wind some Bass back in, which is handy if you back the gain off (if you want to add this, search for Chuck Rat Bass mod, it's on one of the pages that should come up). The Rat lives on my board no matter what style I'm setting up for.
Nobody has mentioned the PedalPCB Tyrian or Sanguine in this thread, but I really like them both. Super high gain, very amp like. Both have a different character, I think about them like they are two different amp channels (probably because originally they were!) Anyone playing heavy music without a tube amp should probably build both.
I hope you have built a Rat by now? I built mine so it has different clipping diode options and you can wind some Bass back in, which is handy if you back the gain off (if you want to add this, search for Chuck Rat Bass mod, it's on one of the pages that should come up). The Rat lives on my board no matter what style I'm setting up for.
owlexifry
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+1 for TYRIAN DIST (aka Revv G3)
here’s a quick demo:
(guitar > tyrian > fx loop)
(same circuit, built on vero)
eh là bas ma
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I am also interested in distortion circuits, I always add a new one in almost every order at musikding.... You can have a look on my profile ("About" section) to see what I've done so far.
There's one distortion stompbox I keep using despite the increasing number of them. It's the Bass Brutalist from GCI. Based on Providence SDT-1, it is really sensitive on the two selected IC inside. One single op-amp, that you can hear in the first half of the Gain rotation, and a dual op-amp that pushes it into distortion.
When I want to test an op-amp, I use this circuit. Currently, the best combination I can find is OP07 and a strange chip I found second hand on Banzai Music. It reads NEC JAPAN C4558C. Not sure how it differs from the usual RC4558P, but it always sounds much better to my ears.
I also have special feelings for OCD v.2, modded BD-2, Angry Charles, and my brand new PPCB Oxide Distortion (mostortion) stock or with Fet clipping (2x 2N7000 and a red led)...
Edit : ...and the Big Muff op-amp, of course.
There's one distortion stompbox I keep using despite the increasing number of them. It's the Bass Brutalist from GCI. Based on Providence SDT-1, it is really sensitive on the two selected IC inside. One single op-amp, that you can hear in the first half of the Gain rotation, and a dual op-amp that pushes it into distortion.
When I want to test an op-amp, I use this circuit. Currently, the best combination I can find is OP07 and a strange chip I found second hand on Banzai Music. It reads NEC JAPAN C4558C. Not sure how it differs from the usual RC4558P, but it always sounds much better to my ears.
I also have special feelings for OCD v.2, modded BD-2, Angry Charles, and my brand new PPCB Oxide Distortion (mostortion) stock or with Fet clipping (2x 2N7000 and a red led)...
Edit : ...and the Big Muff op-amp, of course.
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DGWVI
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I built a Morning Glory into an Ionosphere 2-in-1. They played very well together. I apparently didn't save the demo, but the brightness of the Glory complimented the fuzz almost perfectly
djmiyta
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Just adding some new combos I've tried and liked a lot
1 - Sonic Titan into BE-OD
2 - Snake oil Marvelous Engine into G-4
3 - Abasi Pathos into Lighthaus
4 - Sonic Titan into Mach 4
5 - G-4 into Prince Red Rox
6 - Boss SD-1 into Lighthaus
7 - Boss SD-1 into Pussy Melter
8 - Boss SD-1 into Vallhalla
9 -Prince Red Rox into Lighthaus
1 - Sonic Titan into BE-OD
2 - Snake oil Marvelous Engine into G-4
3 - Abasi Pathos into Lighthaus
4 - Sonic Titan into Mach 4
5 - G-4 into Prince Red Rox
6 - Boss SD-1 into Lighthaus
7 - Boss SD-1 into Pussy Melter
8 - Boss SD-1 into Vallhalla
9 -Prince Red Rox into Lighthaus
