Solid core hook up wire…..

Some good suggestions here. The stranded wire I use is also pre-bonded/tinned, so it is almost a hybrid of the best of both worlds. I used to use the wire from GuitarPCB, but they stopped shipping it to Canada at one point, so I switched to Small Bear and it has been great.
 
I’ve mainly used the same three spools of wire I got sometimes in the later 80s, JAN surplus, white PTFE silver plated solid, in 18, 22, and 24 g. The 18 is almost gone, but I still have the “bass” speaker wire runs, about 30 feet each, that are braided from 6 length each, so if I got desperate, and wanted to unbraid it, I‘d be set for life. (My last stereo set up was tri-wired to the separate drivers. My current set up is run off the old midrange wires, just a twisted pair of the 22g. After I freak friends out with the rediculous bass that is coming from a 4.5 inch cone in a transmission line enclosure, I point to the thin wires connected to it, which often elicits more “whoas!“ than the tiny speaker.)

I used to use the 22 in pedals, (veroboard, so often there was a lot of wire in them), but I’ve been using 24g the past few years, and am much happier working with that.

From my perspective, solid wire breaks happen when the wire is nicked during insulation strip off. And as much as I love the PTFE insulation, it is much harder to strip. So you need good strippers, and making sure that the wire is not angled, but perpendicular to the cutters when you pull is also important. For larger projects, I use one of those auto strippers, where you set a stop for how much insulation gets pulled, and a pair of clamps grab the wire and pull it (at a perferct right angle), but that seems like overkill for the amount of wires in a pedal. With vinyl and other soft insulated larger gauge wires, I tend to use the wire cutter part of a small pair of needle nose, just pinching the insulation a bit and pulling; it rips off pretty cleanly, and I’m not getting close enough to the wire to mar it.
 
DAOKI 22AWG Hook up Wire Kit 22 Gauge Silicone Wire 300V 10 Color 7m/23ft Each Stranded Tinned Copper Copper Electrical Wire Assortment Kit with 50PCS Heat Shrink, 70PCS Wire Labels https://a.co/d/0c1Iq4P

Not solid core but this is what I’m using right now.
These guys stock a wide variety as well:
https://bntechgo.com/silicone-wire/24-gauge-silicone-wire/
 
22 ga will actually handle all of the current in a high voltage amplifier, it's rated for more than that! I use to use 18ga on the heater wires but it's insanely hard to bend into intricate shapes. I use 20 on the heaters now and 22 on the rest of the amp except for grounding I still use 18ga. You want a HIGHWAY to ground to help prevent ground loops.
I use 20 awg all around, 16 awg buss wire for the grounds. Getting the blue Sozo's?
 
I use 20 awg all around, 16 awg buss wire for the grounds. Getting the blue Sozo's?
Yeah I use the bare 16 awg for the buss, but 18ga for running to the ground lug. I'm using 1/4"-20 button heads for the center ground. I ran across some 1975 regulations stating that the chassis is not to be used as circuit path. doh. I'm not rebuilding any of my old amps, but newer ones are going to be like this.

The order of placing the leads on the bolt is important, preamp ground has to be last. Had a deluxe clone that was just BUZZING like a chain saw, realized I had the order wrong and changed it and it was DEAD quiet.

I was actually doing this on my really early amps, but after I made my Hiwatts I went to split star ground. Going back now.

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Yeah I use the bare 16 awg for the buss, but 18ga for running to the ground lug. I'm using 1/4"-20 button heads for the center ground. I ran across some 1975 regulations stating that the chassis is not to be used as circuit path. doh. I'm not rebuilding any of my old amps, but newer ones are going to be like this.

The order of placing the leads on the bolt is important, preamp ground has to be last. Had a deluxe clone that was just BUZZING like a chain saw, realized I had the order wrong and changed it and it was DEAD quiet.

I was actually doing this on my really early amps, but after I made my Hiwatts I went to split star ground. Going back now.
I use a 12AWG pigtail for the safety ground to it's own bolt. I put the CT to the filter cap end of the ground buss and the input jacks at the other where it's tied to it's own bolt to the chassis. All the pots have their own individual wires to the buss.

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I make sure the earth ground is WAY longer than the hot and neutral, that way it'll never have any tension on it at least until the other two are ripped out and disconnected.....

But all roads need to lead to earth ground to avoid using the chassis as a circuit path. Using the ground on the transformer just runs the ground to the transformer bolts, to the chassis, to the earth ground.

Mighty nice layout you have there! I've literally spent the last 7 months doing nothing but drawing layouts. It's part of my "use my brain to recover from the damage from covid" therapy..... Worked!!! Ready to actually start building some, lol. And on that note I have some caps to solder :cool:
 
I make sure the earth ground is WAY longer than the hot and neutral, that way it'll never have any tension on it at least until the other two are ripped out and disconnected.....

But all roads need to lead to earth ground to avoid using the chassis as a circuit path. Using the ground on the transformer just runs the ground to the transformer bolts, to the chassis, to the earth ground.

Mighty nice layout you have there! I've literally spent the last 7 months doing nothing but drawing layouts. It's part of my "use my brain to recover from the damage from covid" therapy..... Worked!!! Ready to actually start building some, lol. And on that note I have some caps to solder :cool:
This amp turned out nice. The trem will not work properly without a strong 12AX7. Took me hours to troubleshoot that. I use star ground for hifi amps, but I don’t notice a difference in guitar amps.

Thread 'First Guitar Amp Finished'
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/first-guitar-amp-finished.17170/
 
Silicone insulation is a game changer. Nice and flexible and it doesn't melt.
I use stranded wire because I'd break solid core wire for sure clumsy as I am. 22Awg.

Tinning wires is the bane of my existence.
I really need to find pre-bonded stranded wire.
 
This amp turned out nice. The trem will not work properly without a strong 12AX7. Took me hours to troubleshoot that. I use star ground for hifi amps, but I don’t notice a difference in guitar amps.

Thread 'First Guitar Amp Finished'
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/first-guitar-amp-finished.17170/
There is not a difference! But the 1975 rules/regulations makes you "responsible" if someone gets zapped by an amp you've made that doesn't follow their "don't use the chassis as part of the grounding circuit" rule.....

Now these are audio amp rules, home builders can still use conduit as grounding........ go figure.

It's not a big deal, just a few more wires.....
 
There is not a difference! But the 1975 rules/regulations makes you "responsible" if someone gets zapped by an amp you've made that doesn't follow their "don't use the chassis as part of the grounding circuit" rule.....

Now these are audio amp rules, home builders can still use conduit as grounding........ go figure.

It's not a big deal, just a few more wires.....
I’ve always read, and been told, that you never attach any other ground to the safety ground lug. Mojotone, ceriatone , and most the other guitar kit makers have 2-3 chassis ground points. My Bottlehead kits do as well. My 1976 Fender ties every circuit ground to the chassis directly and didn’t even have an earth ground.

I don’t sell my amps so not an issue.

I think we may have hijacked this thread. Sorry
 
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I’ve always read, and been told, that you never attach any other ground to the safety ground lug. Mojotone, ceriatone , and most the other guitar kit makers have 2-3 chassis ground points. My Bottlehead kits do as well. My 1976 Fender ties every circuit ground to the chassis directly and didn’t even have an earth ground.

I don’t sell my amps so not an issue.

I think we may have hijacked this thread. Sorry
The earth ground goes on the bolt, then a nut, then the rest of the grounds, then the second nylon lock nut!

And, uh, yes I use solid core teflon wire and posted my source. Great guy. <End Hijack> :cool:
 
Silicone insulation is a game changer. Nice and flexible and it doesn't melt.
I use stranded wire because I'd break solid core wire for sure clumsy as I am. 22Awg.

Tinning wires is the bane of my existence.
I really need to find pre-bonded stranded wire.
I've tried forever to find prebonded wire with silicone/non-melting insulation, and have yet come across it. I would pay stupid money for it. It's like my wire white whale...
 
... I check my bank and cc balance daily, and have disputed a few charges - all from "The L.A. Times" trying to resubscribe me without permission. I called the the last time to find out why and they said "Your wife called us and ordered it". I said "How is that possible since she died 18 months ago?". They hung up on me.....
That's fraud.
I hope the dumb-ass that said your wife ordered the subscription was fired. I'd even follow up on it, draught a letter with a lawyer friend (so it has lots of legal jargon) that's CC'd to the ombuds-person and some competing news agencies. 🤬

The print-news industry has enough problems nowadays without having scummy-scammy sales-people screwing things up more and alienating end-customers.
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That's fraud.
I hope the dumb-ass that said your wife ordered the subscription was fired. I'd even follow up on it, draught a letter with a lawyer friend (so it has lots of legal jargon) that's CC'd to the ombuds-person and some competing news agencies. 🤬

The print-news industry has enough problems nowadays without having scummy-scammy sales-people screwing things up more and alienating end-customers.
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When I called Visa and told them they said "Oh.... The L.A. Times is the worst. We get hundreds of disputes a year from them". So I guess if you or I try it, then it's a felony, but if it's the L.A. Times it's "a mistake".....
 
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