This Week on the Breadboard: The Golden F**k

Chuck D. Bones

Circuit Wizard
A friend of mine on these forums gave me an all-in-one pedal with a Golden Falk inside. It's a sweet pedal, but I was unable to set the NORMAL or TREBLE knobs low enough to play clean. So a couple of days ago I a ran some sims and built a breadboard. I figured I'd have to fiddle some resistors to reduce the gain in a couple of places. Turns out that the 2nd stage (Q3 & Q4) had a biasing problem. when the MODE switch is in the 1987 position (right-hand position on the schematic), Q4 is biased to run at Idss. Q3 & Q4 have the same DC drain current, so Q3 needs to have an Idss that equal to, or greater than Q4. JFETs with the same part # will be different, so there's a 50/50 chance that Q3's Idss would be greater than Q4's. There's an easy way to check that in-circuit (see below) and sure enough, Q3's Idss was lower than Q4's. Not good. This circuit was never going to run right. The JFETs are SMD in my pedal, so the rework is going to wait until all of the breadboard testing is completed.

I pulled out my J201 stash and started selecting JFETs for the breadboard. I did not install trimmers on the breadboard. I made TRIM1 = 10K, TRIM2 = 20K and TRIM3 = 10K, same as the trimmer setting in my pedal (actually, TRIM3 was 9K, but 10K is close enough). Then I selected J201s that got the drain voltages all between 5V and 5.5V That took care of Q1, Q2 & Q5. For Q3 and Q4, I measured their Idss and installed the one with the higher Idss in Q3's spot. Everything worked great. I could turn NORMAL & TREBLE up to 9:00 and play clean with hot humbuckers. Then I swapped Q3 & Q4. Now it distorted all of the time even with NORMAL & TREBLE at 8:00 and for all three positions of the MODE switch. I checked Q4's drain voltage with the MODE switch set to 1987. It was 4.3V. When I checked it on the pedal I got a similar reading. If Q3 & Q4 are biased correctly, Q4's DC drain voltage will be above 1/2 Vcc (4.5V). I'll need to swap Q3 and Q4 in my pedal.

If you play a guitar with high-output pickups and you want to be able to play clean with the guitar volume dimed, you have a couple of choices. You can run the pedal at 18V and adjust TRIM3 for 9V on Q5-D, or you can drop the gain of the 2nd stage by about 6dB. To accomplish the latter, change R12 and R13 to 33K and change C12 to 1nF. Another way to do it is to leave R12, R13 and C12 at the stock values and replace Q3 & Q4 with 2N5457. Both ways work equally well. I also increased R11 to 1.5K to get a little more difference in gain when switching the MODE between 1959 and 1987.

A note on trimmer settings
TRIM3 is part of the filter network following Q5. If you go above 15K, the tone will get darker. Better to set TRIM3 to 10K and pick a JFET that gives you the right drain voltage.

Parting shots
JFETs are not plug & play. Q1 & Q2 should be J201 (mmbf201) or similar. With Q3, Q4 and Q5, we have choices. We should keep Q4's Idss below 10mA to limit the power consumption in 1987 mode. Most of the gain in this circuit is in the 2nd stage and Q3 & Q4 have a major impact on the gain. J201 will provide high gain in this circuit. Most other part numbers I tried produced lower gain. R12 & R13 load the mu-amp and influence the gain. Making them larger than 100K won't increase the gain much, but lowering them will reduce the gain. C3 does not need to be 100uF; 10uF is plenty and rolls off the bass below 27Hz. All in all, a very nice circuit when it's working right.

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Knobs (L-R): VOLUME - TONE - TREBLE - NORMAL
2nd row from the bottom, JFETs are spare, Q5, Q3, Q4, Q2 & Q1. The JFETs in the bottom row are "on deck."
Golden Falk - cb mod 0.1 - 02.jpg
 
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TRIM3 is part of the filter network following Q5. If you go above 15K, the tone will get darker. Better to set TRIM3 to 10K and pick a JFET that gives you the right drain voltage.
This is a useful tip. Usually, hardly anyone pays attention to the value of the drain resistor. 10k, 15k, 40k.. anything that allows you to set 1/2 Vcc or any other desired voltage. In this case (Rd lower or equal 10k) you will need J201 with a higher Vp (as per J201), I suspect around -0.9V
 
I just checked the J201 I have installed for Q5. Vp = -1.5V, right at the upper bound per the spec. I have some 2N5457s that work for Q5. I just updated the schematic to correct Note 3.
 
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-1.5V may be the upper limit for J201 but after measuring several hundred MMBFJ201 I have never come across a piece with Vp above (or below, depending on how you count) -1V :)

Short recording from a breadboard.

TRE gain around 14 o'clock, NORMAL around 9-10 o'clock, tone maxed. 4x12 V30 Mesa IR.
Testing Q5 biased at 5.56V


#1 - TRIM3 around 14k8, J201 with Vp adound -0.738V
#2 - TRIM3 around 10K, J201 with Vp adound -0.96V
#3 - TRIM3 around 10K, J201 with Vp adound -0.96V, R12 and R13 33k, C12 1n
 
The way the first 2 gain stages are set up makes me want to breadboard this immediately. Just from looking at it, are Q1 and Q2 working simultaneously? One has a Normal control and the other has a Treble control interesting....
 
Short recording from a breadboard.

Thanks for the demos, Temol. The differences are fairly subtle, to my ears anyway. Somewhat less gain with #3, as expected. What position was the MODE switch?

The way the first 2 gain stages are set up makes me want to breadboard this immediately. Just from looking at it, are Q1 and Q2 working simultaneously? One has a Normal control and the other has a Treble control interesting....

The two channels run in parallel. Because of the phase shift in the Treble channel, we can get a notch up around 2-5 KHz with certain combinations of NORMAL & TREBLE. This is the response at the input of the 2nd stage (Q4-G) with NORMAL at 2:00, TREBLE going from 0 to max. MODE sw in the middle position.

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One way to use the two controls is to start with TREBLE at noon and NORMAL at 7:00. Gradually bring up NORMAL to fill in the bass as desired. Then adjust the two controls from there.
 
Oh wow so since Q1 and Q2 are running parallel its considered one stage! Very interesting, @Chuck D. Bones If you dont mind me asking whats Q3 doing there?

EDIT: Q3 and Q4 create the 2nd gain stage got it!

So 2 stages that run parallel Jfets!
 
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Is that your preferred MODE?
Hm.. good question. In general I prefer hotter settings when it comes to gain.

Again, some breadboard noodling. Normal GAIN @ 8 o'clock, TRE gain @ 14 o'clock
Changed Q1 and Q2 to MMBF5457, R4 to 2k2, R5 to 4k7. Voltages set as per schematic (with trimmers).
#1 - MMBFJ201,
#2 - MMBF5457

Here MMBF5457 only, NORMAL gain @ 9 o'clock. TRE gain from 9 o'clock to max
 
Now, testing MMBF5457.


From #1 to #6: NORMAL gain @ 9 o'clock, TRE gain @ 13 o'clock. #7 gain from 9 o'clock to max.
4x12 V30 MBoogie IR.
#1 - Q1/Q2 MMBF5457, 1959 mode.
#2 - Q1/Q2 MMBF5457, 1959 mode, R11 - 3k9
#3 - Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 MMBF5457, 1959 mode, R11 - 1k
#4 - Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 MMBF5457, 1987 mode, R11 - 1k
#5 - Q1 to Q5 MMBF5457, 1959 mode
#6 - Q1 to Q5 MMBF5457, 1987 mode
#7 - Q1 to Q5 MMBF5457, 1987 mode - TRE gain range.
 
They all sound good!
In 1987 mode, R11 is out of the circuit.
What were your trimmer values? Depending on that, the MMBF5457 could have have lower or higher gain compared to MMBF201. My experience with 2N5457 for Q3 & Q4, the gain was definitely lower. J201 typically have a higher output impedance compared to 2N5457. doesn't make much difference for Q1, Q2 or Q5, but makes a significant difference for Q3 & Q4.
 
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