Virtual Ground / Midpoint Biasing

YourGuitarist

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It has recently come to my attention that the Common Mode Input voltage range of many opamp (especially TL07xs) substantially limits the voltage swing.



Despite this, many many pedal designs across experience levels still use 4.5V as a midpoint bias, which would limit headroom. For example, the TL072 has a recommended input voltage range of (V-)+4V -> (V+)+.1V. With a midpoint of 4.5V, you only have -+500mVp of headroom before clipping/undesirable behavior. With a higher midpoint of 7V, you'd quadruple the headroom to +-2Vp (+12dB).

Why is this not more common? Am I missing something here?

Additionally, in my experimentation, I've found that the voltage drops across virtual ground resistors tend to be substantial and proportional to the the resistance (Ohm's law ofc), outside of separating the source circuit from the bias point generating circuit, why are such high values used (M ohms). I often find myself feeding my bias voltage via 100-500k rather than mega ohms.

Finally, when a voltage drop is incurred across the midpoint feed resistor, should I consider my midpoint the value preceding the drop or following it? I see this as relevant for inverting opamps and IC's which accept a signal ground input.

This is my first post, so hello to the PedalPCB community! Let me know if there are some key figures to look out for. My main interest is in designing custom pedals from the ground up.

Thank you.
 
The data sheets for TL07x quote common mode range of (V-)+1.5 to (V+) so the headroom isn't as dire as you quote. Outside this range is non-linear--that doesn't necessarily mean clipping or undesirable behavior (although clipping is desired behavior for a majority of the circuits here).
 
The data sheets for TL07x quote common mode range of (V-)+1.5 to (V+) so the headroom isn't as dire as you quote. Outside this range is non-linear--that doesn't necessarily mean clipping or undesirable behavior (although clipping is desired behavior for a majority of the circuits here).
We must be looking at a different datasheet or different spec.

I see the absolute CMV spec as (V-)-.5V to (V+)+.5V but that's referring to a threshold of damage.

Under recommended settings on pg12, it quotes (V-)+2V but that's for NS and PS, which to my understanding is more military spec options compared to the ubiquitous CN version I see everywhere.

I know that some op-amps phase invert once hitting the rails, assumeably that is quite undesirable.

My intent is not be combative but I'm not following rn.
 
I see where its coming from now.

I will note that pg34 explains why they recommend 4V as the lower limit and confirms the phase inversion at high amplitudes.
 
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