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Dual Pedal - Cataclysm & Spirit Box

Dirty_Boogie

Active member
Been a while since I've posted anything here... Built as a request for someone - a delay/reverb dual pedal. Should have been a no-brainer, but two things got me - one bad TL072 (and of course, I decided to not socket them this time!) and an issue with one of the 3PDT boards (probably "operator error"). I don't know why I bothered with the switch boards this time, as I can neatly wire a stomp switch in my sleep at this point! 😆 Anyway, a nice combo - sounds great, with minimal noise floor.

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nichgriff

New member
Looks fantastic! I had the same idea - waiting for the cataclysm pcb to get back in stock! Any tips? Do they sound good stacked? Also, do you waterslide for your decals or what?

Edit: Also, what size enclosure is that?
 

Dirty_Boogie

Active member
Looks fantastic! I had the same idea - waiting for the cataclysm pcb to get back in stock! Any tips? Do they sound good stacked? Also, do you waterslide for your decals or what?

Edit: Also, what size enclosure is that?
Thanks! This is the third time I've built the Cataclysm pedal - it's a good one. I used a 1590XX enclosure - with the rigid PCB-mounted pots, the two boards wouldn't fit in a 1590BB - the PCBs would have been too close to the switches.

I love the sound of these two pedals, but if you're looking for a "traditional" reverb with delay, I don't think the Spirit Box is an ideal match. It has a pre-delay before the reverb kicks in. It's adjustable, but even at the shortest setting, when fed with the delay pedal, you kind of get a "double-bounce" effect with the two delays. Something like the Wampler Faux Spring Reverb circuit would probably have been a better match in this dual pedal, as that pedal just sounds like a great old spring reverb. Or, a pedal order switch might also give interesting results, where you could feed the reverb into the delay instead. Here's some noodling...

Yes, I used a inkjet waterslide clear decal paper. I hate that part of the pedal-building process - making sure no bubbles, or trying to get clear lacquer coats without dimples, crackling, etc.

The parts totaled around $100, which isn't too bad for a 2-in-1 pedal, but definitely more than the $30 or so that I spend on most pedals I build.
 

nichgriff

New member
Thanks! This is the third time I've built the Cataclysm pedal - it's a good one. I used a 1590XX enclosure - with the rigid PCB-mounted pots, the two boards wouldn't fit in a 1590BB - the PCBs would have been too close to the switches.

I love the sound of these two pedals, but if you're looking for a "traditional" reverb with delay, I don't think the Spirit Box is an ideal match. It has a pre-delay before the reverb kicks in. It's adjustable, but even at the shortest setting, when fed with the delay pedal, you kind of get a "double-bounce" effect with the two delays. Something like the Wampler Faux Spring Reverb circuit would probably have been a better match in this dual pedal, as that pedal just sounds like a great old spring reverb. Or, a pedal order switch might also give interesting results, where you could feed the reverb into the delay instead. Here's some noodling...

Yes, I used a inkjet waterslide clear decal paper. I hate that part of the pedal-building process - making sure no bubbles, or trying to get clear lacquer coats without dimples, crackling, etc.

The parts totaled around $100, which isn't too bad for a 2-in-1 pedal, but definitely more than the $30 or so that I spend on most pedals I build.
Sounds great! I was thinking about a pedal order switch but would have no idea how to do that! haha I do have a KMA Cirrus on order though, so I should probably build some that I would be able to use now.

Thanks for your input!
 

Dirty_Boogie

Active member
Sounds great! I was thinking about a pedal order switch but would have no idea how to do that! haha I do have a KMA Cirrus on order though, so I should probably build some that I would be able to use now.

Thanks for your input!
Our friends at PedalPCB have you covered... https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/ :)

I used one for a SHO Boost < > DumbBell OD pedal. Boost into OD (more gain on tap) or OD into Boost (OD is louder, but same gain).
 

JetFixxxer

Active member
Looks good, like the graphics. Very neat and tidy,.

I did a dual pedal the M800 and Twill Deluxe. Love the pedal and was my favorite until I made the Kliche.
 

meidinad

New member
Our friends at PedalPCB have you covered... https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/3pdt-order-switch/ :)

I used one for a SHO Boost < > DumbBell OD pedal. Boost into OD (more gain on tap) or OD into Boost (OD is louder, but same gain).
Thanks for posting this! I'm excited for those to come in stock as well. Question: I am SO confused. So the jacks don't have wiring into the sleeve at all? The wiring diagram shows wiring only to the tip? Can you help me understand this part? Pics always appreciated! =) thanks!
 

Dirty_Boogie

Active member
Thanks for posting this! I'm excited for those to come in stock as well. Question: I am SO confused. So the jacks don't have wiring into the sleeve at all? The wiring diagram shows wiring only to the tip? Can you help me understand this part? Pics always appreciated! =) thanks!
It's not shown, but the sleeves just get their standard wiring to ground. There's usually a couple of ground (-) points on either side of the LED on PedalPCB boards that you can wire the jack grounds to.
 

yazooligan

Member
Hi there! I’m about to embark on almost the exact same build, with the following changes...

-The Seabed Delay will be on the right and the Spirit Box on the left.
-I’d like to put a toggle switch in rather than a footswitch to reverse the order of effects, but I’m not sure which switch to use and how to wire it in.

Can anyone possibly share a diagram?

Thanks so much!
 
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