Effects Layouts Odd One Out

Laundryroom David

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I’m troubleshooting a couple of recent builds of this one that have the exact same issue.

Has anyone else built this per the BOM?


If so, does anyone else get a loud hum when both the “bottom” and “edge” switches are engaged and gain is up past about 11 o’clock?

At full gain the hum sounds like an F (like 3rd fret on the D string).

Turning guitar volume down to zero has no effect, nor does running a buffer before or after the pedal. Turning the gain down on the pedal causes the pitch of the hum to go up a few steps and then cease once the gain knob is down to about 11 o’clock. Disengaging either tone switch (or both) ends the hum even with the gain dimed.

In other words, in stock OD-1 mode, it’s not an issue. In Fulltender mode with gain above 11 o’clock and both tone switches engaged, hum-a-palooza.

I cannot remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a build so extensively. I have inspected, tested, reflowed. Buffer in front, buffer behind, no other pedals in the chain, other pedals in the chain, different power supplies (Boss 9v, PP2+). I separated the input and output wires and isolated them as much as possible. Still no love.

Nothing gets rid of the hum and this is by no means a high gain pedal. My original Fulltender did not hum even with the gain maxed out and both tone toggles engaged.

I am wondering if there’s a problem with parts talking to each other through the rails or maybe some kind of feedback loop getting out of hand. I am (as I often say) not an engineer, nor do I even play one on tv so I don’t know if that even makes sense.

The closest thing I can liken this problem to is the way the havoc switch affects the sound of the Cannon Fodder MkI. Hence my musings about the feedback loop.

I am down the rabbit hole, tucking 47pF caps places in hopes it helps. I dunno man. Getting dark in here. Any help appreciated.
 
It can happen & be picked up in the prototype that should be built by the PCB Provider!
This should be standard practice before letting them out into DIY land & frustrating the crap out of the receiver & flushing Money down the toilet!
My biggest issue is they/ some don't put the Component or Values on the PCB so you have to cross reference which is laziness in the PCB design!

My 2 cents!

Seems there is an error with the PCB. The build doc has been updated with the fix.
This is the same Provider who's completed PCB I busted in 2 after confirming it had extra bad traces in another Build.
That's 2 confirmed dodgy Boards available to the public & why I won't purchase his PCB's again!
 
I placed an order last weekend during the sale and asked David about this issue. He was not aware and very helpful, so I think this affects all PCBs.
Interesting.. mine seems to be working fine. I even built it on a breadboard first and it sounded identical when I built the pcb
 
I wish I hadn't posted this.
I will buy from him again, the projects are really good, affordable, he's been very helpful with this and always is on the Madbean Forum. Mistakes happen.
I don't have a an issue with Members purchasing from other Vendors but be aware that you may hit a brick wall as they don't offer the support that is available at the PedalPCB Forum where Builders come with their issue to sort it out.
Why is the PCB available with known bad traces, that is some major rework to get it working.
This is not a Build issue, solely the Vendor got it wrong!
PedalPCB will correct it & replace if it does happen as soon as it has been reported.
 
Did he offer a replacement as I wouldn't want to sell the pedal with those patch ups?
Mind you, I have seen this done on mass produced boutique pedals where the solder side is showing when you take the back lid off & jumper wires from one pad to another have been present???
Maybe this is where Goop started to to hide a mistake?
 
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