Hello again, and NGD

mkstewartesq

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I hope everyone has been doing OK. For those that even remember me, I’ve been lurking a lot but haven’t been building much in the way of pedals in the past six months – mainly just because I’ve already built one (and sometimes multiples) of all the types of pedals I think I need to have a full range of sounds for now. I really want to get back into it but I’m waiting for a board to come out that strikes my fancy. But I still enjoy coming here every day and reading.

In any event, one or two of you might recall that one of my favorite guitarist is Brian May of Queen - if you look at my build reports, a lot of my early pedals had graphics in tribute to that band, and I even designed and built my own strap-mounted treble booster so I could get his sound (TB to an AC 30) while using a wireless system. I’ve always been a huge admirer of the guitar he designed and built with his father (which is what he has used on almost exclusively his entire career). Up till now I had been playing a replica made by Burns in the late 1990s/early 2000s - it was really inaccurate but there is a company here in the US called RSConversions who specializes in modifying them to install the correct knife edge tremolo, etc. and generally make them more accurate. But they are still basically a “normal” guitar that has been dressed up a bit.

In any event, three years after placing my order, I finally received my hand built replica of Brian’s homemade Red Special guitar. It was built by Dansan Guitars in France to a very high standard of accuracy and is a true bucket list item for me after having been a fan of this guitar for over 40 years.

As far as how the new “real” accurate RS plays? Just awesome. The one thing that I had been really nervous about was the “baseball bat” neck. When Brian carved the neck, he forgot to account for the extra thickness the fretboard would add so the neck is over an inch thick along the entire length of the neck with no taper, So it’s a handful.

A lot of players, even well known guitarists who have tried that guitar, say that the neck is unplayable because it is so much thicker than a standard guitar neck - and I don’t have the largest hands in the world. But I was surprised at how incredibly comfortable and natural it feels in my hand. Zero adjustment time or learning curve needed for me.

Just a few quick pictures – sorry for the quality and also, because I am posting on mobile, sorry if they come out looking really huge.

First, the guitar in its case:

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Second, a comparison of it to my converted Burns RS (the new guitar is on the bottom and you can quickly see that both the color and the overall shape are more “right”).

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Lastly, just to give you an idea of the thickness of the neck: IMG_3489.jpeg


Best,

Mike
 
I hope everyone has been doing OK. For those that even remember me, I’ve been lurking a lot but haven’t been building much in the way of pedals in the past six months – mainly just because I’ve already built one (and sometimes multiples) of all the types of pedals I think I need to have a full range of sounds for now. I really want to get back into it but I’m waiting for a board to come out that strikes my fancy. But I still enjoy coming here every day and reading.

In any event, one or two of you might recall that one of my favorite guitarist is Brian May of Queen - if you look at my build reports, a lot of my early pedals had graphics in tribute to that band, and I even designed and built my own strap-mounted treble booster so I could get his sound (TB to an AC 30) while using a wireless system. I’ve always been a huge admirer of the guitar he designed and built with his father (which is what he has used on almost exclusively his entire career). Up till now I had been playing a replica made by Burns in the late 1990s/early 2000s - it was really inaccurate but there is a company here in the US called RSConversions who specializes in modifying them to install the correct knife edge tremolo, etc. and generally make them more accurate. But they are still basically a “normal” guitar that has been dressed up a bit.

In any event, three years after placing my order, I finally received my hand built replica of Brian’s homemade Red Special guitar. It was built by Dansan Guitars in France to a very high standard of accuracy and is a true bucket list item for me after having been a fan of this guitar for over 40 years.

As far as how the new “real” accurate RS plays? Just awesome. The one thing that I had been really nervous about was the “baseball bat” neck. When Brian carved the neck, he forgot to account for the extra thickness the fretboard would add so the neck is over an inch thick along the entire length of the neck with no taper, So it’s a handful.

A lot of players, even well known guitarists who have tried that guitar, say that the neck is unplayable because it is so much thicker than a standard guitar neck - and I don’t have the largest hands in the world. But I was surprised at how incredibly comfortable and natural it feels in my hand. Zero adjustment time or learning curve needed for me.

Just a few quick pictures – sorry for the quality and also, because I am posting on mobile, sorry if they come out looking really huge.

First, the guitar in its case:

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Second, a comparison of it to my converted Burns RS (the new guitar is on the bottom and you can quickly see that both the color and the overall shape are more “right”).

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Lastly, just to give you an idea of the thickness of the neck:View attachment 84501


Best,

Mike
How would you say the neck compares to a 50s Gibson or strat neck.
 
How would you say the neck compares to a 50s Gibson or strat neck.

Definitely much more full in the hand – i.e., it completely fills out my hand with no empty space. On my Fenders (C shape, modem C and “deep C” profiles), as well as on my Burns which has a Gibson style neck, there’s always about a half inch of empty space between the back of the neck and my palm. On this guitar, pretty much every inch of my hand is always in contact with the neck.

Here are two pictures comparing the Gibson-style Burns neck with the new neck – one side-by-side and one as an overlay to give you a picture of the difference.

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That thing is so cool. Looks spot on- he was one of the first guitarists that blew me away. I really love how thick that neck is. I was skeptical of them at first, but like you say, it felt comfortable right away.

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I don’t know much about Brian May, but this is rad as hell. I’m experiencing much second hand joy on your behalf just reading about it.

I just read the Wikipedia article about the red special. Wow! Basically made out of scraps and ingenuity, perfectly fit to the player’s needs. Absolutely beautiful. Now I understand why it’s so difficult to find a good replica, ha!
 
I don’t know much about Brian May, but this is rad as hell. I’m experiencing much second hand joy on your behalf just reading about it.

I just read the Wikipedia article about the red special. Wow! Basically made out of scraps and ingenuity, perfectly fit to the player’s needs. Absolutely beautiful. Now I understand why it’s so difficult to find a good replica, ha!
Thanks, man! That’s very kind of you.

Mike
 
I’d like to echo the Fat Neck love. I play a Gibson SG 50’s tribute. It has a thick neck that I adore. It immediately felt like the correct fit in my hands.
I used to play a MIM Strat with a modern C neck and would get hand fatigue. I figured it was just the way it is, and dealt with it.
Congrats on the Red Special.
Have you tried playing it with a coin like Brian May? I forget which coin he uses.
 
I’d like to echo the Fat Neck love. I play a Gibson SG 50’s tribute. It has a thick neck that I adore. It immediately felt like the correct fit in my hands.
I used to play a MIM Strat with a modern C neck and would get hand fatigue. I figured it was just the way it is, and dealt with it.
Congrats on the Red Special.
Have you tried playing it with a coin like Brian May? I forget which coin he uses.
Thanks! Yup, I play with a British sixpence, just like he does. But only when playing this guitar and those specific songs – it’s crucial to get the right sounds, but it requires a different picking technique (and is also hell on string longevity) so I use a normal pick for everything else and when playing with other guitars.

The sixpence has been out of circulation for about 45 years now but because they were such a common coin for so long, you can still get a baggie of them off eBay for next to nothing. And obviously you can use them until the serrated edge wears down, so this little bag is gonna last me pretty much the rest of my life.


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That's so cool. I'd probably like the neck because I learned on a classical. My fave guitar is a Yamaha Ty Tabor and it's the opposite, it has a fairly thin neck and it took me a long time to get used to it. It sounds so good though that I stuck with it.

Very nice score, you gotta be thrilled.
 
I'd probably love that neck. Stupid huge hands. I can't jive with any guitars that have less than 43mm nut width and bigger string spacing, it's annoying. That is sweet.
 
Sweet guitar!

I can’t stop looking at that case though. I imagine that’s also a reproduction? It looks like some 70s sectional couch for a sunken living room.
 
Sweet guitar!

I can’t stop looking at that case though. I imagine that’s also a reproduction? It looks like some 70s sectional couch for a sunken living room.
Haha! No, I don’t believe it’s a reproduction of anything but maybe the builder just had a difficult time cost-effectively spec-ing outer case that fit the weird shape of this guitar AND would survive shipment from France (note that there is a big void in the top half so that you can leave the trem bar on with the case closed).

All that being said, I have to say it’s a super nice case although, for whatever reason, it’s at least 50% thicker than my other vintage Fender-style Tolex cases. More like a briefcase or small suitcase.

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