How to make Vero boards

If I need to chop a single row of board then the clippers I use to snip wires does the trick. Otherwise It's as Chuck says - score each side along the next row of holes and snap. I'm sometimes use the edge of a table or something but just snapping against a hard flat surface usually works just fine for me.

One of my favourite bits is doing the layout. I see it as a kind of puzzle and use DIYLC. One thing I try to do is make the layout logical, simple, and with as few long runs of wiring as possible. I like box caps to cover 3 rows which means not having to bend the leads. Two rows is ok at a pinch because you can tuck one of the leads underneath the cap. Electrolytics I prefer over two rows for the same reason - no wires coming out at right angles.

I prefer to have gain wires come out from top left, because I try to keep the gain pot top right of all of my pedals. So top left of the board = top right from outside the box. Similarly I try to always have volume top left as you look at the pedal, so prefer to have Volume 3s wire come of the board top right. Tone wires should be below those because those pots are below the gain and volume. Input should be lowest on the left and if there is an output wire it should be lowest on the right.

Here is a recent layout I did for an experimental Rat:

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Ground and 9V are top right because they connect to sockets at the top of the pedal enclosure. It makes everything very straightforward to connect. I don't mind that bass and treble pot wires cross the enclosure - I like the bass pot to be lower left and Treble lower right as you look at the pedal. It actually makes them easier to wire up in an odd way!

I've mentioned this before, but if you're on a Mac (I always am) and you use Preview to see the layouts (Yup, that's what I use!) you can use "Flip horizontal" under "Tools" to flip the image, making cutting out your cuts in the tracks easier. Then just flip it back to install all the parts. Easy! I'm sure there must be an equivalent on a PC.

You can see that all the electrolytics sit over two rows and the box caps either 2 or 3. I don't mind if resistors or diodes have to span only two rows - some people hate that. It just means standing them up like you see in any Ibanez pedal.

And lastly I aim to keep the layout 20 columns or less so that it will fit into a 1590B box.
 
This method avoids having to reverse layouts to place cuts. Mark from the top with a felt tip pen - the ink absorbs into the board, and you can see it from the other side. Simple... it also provides a good reference for component placement, once you start populating the board.

I make a few layouts myself, and what works for me might be different for others. I don't mind standing resistors, if it means less links and I have a weird thing about cuts lining up on the board where possible. If they line up, there's less time and thought required for marking and cutting, which hopefully results in less errors.

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This method avoids having to reverse layouts to place cuts. Mark from the top with a felt tip pen - the ink absorbs into the board, and you can see it from the other side. Simple... it also provides a good reference for component placement, once you start populating the board.

I make a few layouts myself, and what works for me might be different for others. I don't mind standing resistors, if it means less links and I have a weird thing about cuts lining up on the board where possible. If they line up, there's less time and thought required for marking and cutting, which hopefully results in less errors.

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A sharpie also works well for this
 
Hi all!

I'm working on my first vero and I'm wondering if I can clean it with IPA like I clean PCBs. Is that maybe a bad idea and the copper strips will come off?

Kind regards,
Seb
 
I clean mine with steel wool or scotchbrite before soldering and with IPA after soldering. Too much heat or mechanical stress will peel the Cu strips, but not IPA.
 
How to convert "pcb" to "vero-board layout"?

I have this "madbean current lover pcb" and want its veroboard layout.
Please help me
 

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There is no PCB-to-Vero conversion tool other than your brain, time and patience. I would not try to copy the PCB exactly. It might provide clues as to a general parts placement. Vero is single-sided and the traces only run in one direction. That means with a complicated circuit like this one, you should expect the Vero to be larger than the PCB. Much larger in this case.

If you have never done a Vero layout before, you might want to start with something simple and work your way up to more complicated stuff. Seriously. This circuit has a high parts count and a lotta connections.
If you haven't already, study other peoples' Vero designs and pick up on the things they do to minimize the number of cuts, jumpers and overall board size. Here's a good trick: run jumpers under ICs saves space. Here's another one: be generous with the number of ground traces since more parts connect there than anywhere else. Like PCB layout, it is very easy to paint yourself into a corner. Be willing to rip-up and redo large portions of the board if necessary. One last piece of advice: it is very easy to make mistakes in the design, cutting and assembly of a Vero board. Check your work every step of the way. Designing a Vero takes a lot of time and there are no shortcuts.
 
How to convert "pcb" to "vero-board layout"?

I have this "madbean current lover pcb" and want its veroboard layout.
Please help me

What Chuck said: STUDY other people's designs. You'll have to then extrapolate and work through the differences in circuits, but in the end you'll have accomplished what no one else wanted to tackle.






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Wow, Chuck, I never visited this thread before and only now because FLANGER... but, the thread almost makes me want to try a vero build again.
Good info and advice. Wish I'd had this thread to refer to way back when...
 
From which websites you buy and order it?
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/index.html - for the current lover.

other PCB options:

 
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