In search of Stereo Reverbs and Delays to fill 2 Binaura EEPROMS.
- Thread starter BrainGutz
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Cybercow
Well-known member
Cool beans! Here's D06 . . .
Stereo-wise, this one seems a bit weak to me. But that just might be the fact that the two Reverse Delay blocks have a fixed delay rate and can't be changed. Maybe in SpinASM, but that's over my head for now. You may want to temporarily add the "2:2 (x2) Mixer" to hear how it sounds with a dry signal.
D06 Stereo Reverse Delay.spcdj
EDIT: CODE REMOVED DUE TO BAD FORMATTING OR SOMETHING. Reposted below in post #89.
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Cybercow
Well-known member
@BrainGutz - I finished the initial candidates for D07 & D08 then converted them SpinASM, burned to EEPROM and audited them thru a real Binaura I'd built. Some of them are going to need tweaking to deal with a glitchy Pot0 Delay Time"/Control 1. Those will need a Smoother block immediately after the Pot0 block. Turning the Delay Time control with a Smooter block sounds horrible while there is a signal running thru the circuit. A couple of the patches will also need Feedback path levels reviewed & tweaked (lowered a bit) to tame the volume and remove some distortion artifacts. And considering I have no idea what actual described patches sound like, overall, I think we have some decent starting points for the Poor Man's Timeline patch set.
BrainGutz
Member
Sorry for the delay, I’ve been neglecting the actual build so I spent some time putting the two binaura’s together. Happy with how they came out. Still have to drill the enclosures but the bulk of the soldering is done.
As for the stereo reverse delay. I’m getting the incompatibility message again with it. Tried saving it again in case of a copy and paste error, but got the same error message.
@Cybercow I really appreciate all this, let me know if there is anything I can do to help smooth your process. I’m really excited to be involved in this, but you deserve all of the recognition for your skill, generosity, and help with something like this for fun.
All hail the goat, er… COW
As for the stereo reverse delay. I’m getting the incompatibility message again with it. Tried saving it again in case of a copy and paste error, but got the same error message.
@Cybercow I really appreciate all this, let me know if there is anything I can do to help smooth your process. I’m really excited to be involved in this, but you deserve all of the recognition for your skill, generosity, and help with something like this for fun.
All hail the goat, er… COW
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Cybercow
Well-known member
You're running SpinCAD Designer version 99.1070 , right??? On Mac or Windows?
Cybercow
Well-known member
Windows 7, 8, 10, 11, ??? (Just want to identify cuz I have access to a few different machines to try things on.)
And with the "incompatibility message", what is the exact message and what specific action caused the message to appear? Did you change the filename extension to ".spcdj" ?
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Cybercow
Well-known member
Hmmmm . . . . I'm thinking my old MacBook (macOS 'Big Sur') laptop may be the culprit there. I saved the last edits for the Reverse Delay from there. I was just on my Windows machine and re-saved everything after adding in the "Smoother" blocks to the Delay Time control on all the patches. (And by the way, after just testing them all burned to an EEPROM in an actual Binaura build - they sound MUCH better when tweaking the Delay Time controls.)
Any way, so here's D06 Stereo Reverse Delay.spcdj - please try again . . . .
(Just save it over the last one. I've removed the code from the previous D06 submission post.)
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}Cybercow
Well-known member
Excellent. Here are two candidates for D07, the Stereo Swell Delay . . .
Haven't heard what this one is supposed to sound like and just did my best to follow the description that was provided. Most of the swell action is managed by the two "Env Follower" blocks. They each push thru a 'Scale Offset' block to drive a 'Volume' block inserted between the 'Input' block and two 'Single Delay' blocks. You can play with the parameters (Attack, Release, etc) in the"Env Follower" Control Panels if you want to experiment with changing their behavior. The Feedback levels may need to be addressed because at some settings it tends to 'run away'.
D07 Stereo Swell Delay.spcdj . . .
D07 Stereo Swell Delay 04.spcdj . . . .
Haven't heard what this one is supposed to sound like and just did my best to follow the description that was provided. Most of the swell action is managed by the two "Env Follower" blocks. They each push thru a 'Scale Offset' block to drive a 'Volume' block inserted between the 'Input' block and two 'Single Delay' blocks. You can play with the parameters (Attack, Release, etc) in the"Env Follower" Control Panels if you want to experiment with changing their behavior. The Feedback levels may need to be addressed because at some settings it tends to 'run away'.
D07 Stereo Swell Delay.spcdj . . .
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"Part of a Pedal PCB Community project."
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}D07 Stereo Swell Delay 04.spcdj . . . .
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"Part of a Pedal PCB Community project."
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Last edited:
BrainGutz
Member
I think I like version 2 more. I will probably be able to tweak it more when I hear it for real, but I think you achieved the concept.
Last edited:
Digital Larry
Well-known member
What I found when doing the reverse delay block (Claude assisting with the original code I got most likely from the Spin forum) is that, when using just half the delay RAM, the segments are so short that it becomes difficult to perceive them as backwards. Doing a spectrogram using a sine sweep input definitely shows short sections being reversed.
Unfortunately the reverse block uses delay addressing tricks so is not as flexible as vanilla delay blocks which do not. So you can't add any other delay blocks to a patch which uses the reverse delay in full mode.
Unfortunately the reverse block uses delay addressing tricks so is not as flexible as vanilla delay blocks which do not. So you can't add any other delay blocks to a patch which uses the reverse delay in full mode.
Cybercow
Well-known member
Yeah, I was able to sort out that Reverse Delay only allows for 'half mode' when you want two of them. I tried to put one 'Half Mode' Reverse Delay block after another in mono, just hear how it might sound, but couldn't get any sound out of that arrangement.
Cybercow
Well-known member
Gotcha. Here are two candidates for D08 - Stereo Filter Sweep Mod Delay . . . .
Again, these may need their Feedback levels adjusted to tame any potential runaway. Runaway can sound tamed in SpinCAD, but when run thru the FV-1 it can become unmanageable when the control pot is dimed. Some players like that, others don't and some like to tweak a bance where it just edges runaway.
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},
{
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},
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},
{
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},
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}Cybercow
Well-known member
Alrighty then. That puts on to the verbs. Here's the best candidate for R01 - the Stereo Ambient Reverb.
Note in the reverbs patches where the "Reverb Designer" block is used, like this one, its Control Panel is very comprehensive and one of the parameters therein is a Dry/Wet mix control. And for the sake of auditing in SpinCAD, I've set that Dry/Wet mix ar well below 100% so the dry signal can be heard with the wet. So you'll want to set the Dry/Mix parameter to 100% (all the way to the right) before burning it to an EEPROM.
I think you're going like playing with the "Reverb Designer" block. Just be sure to pay attention to the three Allocation bars at the bottom of the SpinCAD screen. Especially the 'Instructions' bar - as it's easy to go over the limit of 128 instructions with this block.
@Digital Larry did a great job with this SpinCAD block.
R01 Stereo Ambient Reverb.spcdj
Note in the reverbs patches where the "Reverb Designer" block is used, like this one, its Control Panel is very comprehensive and one of the parameters therein is a Dry/Wet mix control. And for the sake of auditing in SpinCAD, I've set that Dry/Wet mix ar well below 100% so the dry signal can be heard with the wet. So you'll want to set the Dry/Mix parameter to 100% (all the way to the right) before burning it to an EEPROM.
I think you're going like playing with the "Reverb Designer" block. Just be sure to pay attention to the three Allocation bars at the bottom of the SpinCAD screen. Especially the 'Instructions' bar - as it's easy to go over the limit of 128 instructions with this block.
@Digital Larry did a great job with this SpinCAD block.
R01 Stereo Ambient Reverb.spcdj
JSON:
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"formatVersion": 1,
"buildNumber": 1070,
"type": "patch",
"patchFileName": "R01 Stereo Ambient Reverb.spcdj",
"comments": {
"fileName": "R01 Stereo Ambient Reverb.spcdj",
"version": "Patch saved from SpinCAD Designer version 1070",
"lines": [
"Pot 0: Reverb",
"Pot 1: Pre-Delay",
"Pot 2: HF Damping",
"",
""
]
},
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0.0,
0.0,
0.0
],
"blocks": [
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.InputCADBlock",
"blockNum": 0,
"x": 293,
"y": 4,
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},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.Pot0CADBlock",
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"x": 24,
"y": 54,
"name": "Pot 0",
"params": {
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"potRegister": 16
}
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{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.Pot1CADBlock",
"blockNum": 2,
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"params": {
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"potRegister": 17
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.Pot2CADBlock",
"blockNum": 3,
"x": 78,
"y": 157,
"name": "Pot 2",
"params": {
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"potRegister": 18
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.ScaleOffsetControlCADBlock",
"blockNum": 4,
"x": 141,
"y": 108,
"name": "Scale/Offset",
"params": {
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"inHigh": 1.0,
"outLow": 0.05,
"outHigh": 1.0
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"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.ScaleOffsetControlCADBlock",
"blockNum": 5,
"x": 89,
"y": 55,
"name": "Scale/Offset",
"params": {
"inLow": 0.0,
"inHigh": 1.0,
"outLow": 0.0,
"outHigh": 0.81
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.control_smootherCADBlock",
"blockNum": 6,
"x": 191,
"y": 55,
"name": "Smoother",
"params": {
"filtReg": 35,
"filt": 1.9353341013150782E-4
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.ScaleOffsetControlCADBlock",
"blockNum": 7,
"x": 139,
"y": 157,
"name": "Scale/Offset",
"params": {
"inLow": 0.0,
"inHigh": 1.0,
"outLow": 0.2,
"outHigh": 1.0
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.ReverbDesignerCADBlock",
"blockNum": 8,
"x": 293,
"y": 56,
"name": "Reverb Designer",
"params": {
"topology": 0,
"sizePreset": 2,
"stereoOutput": true,
"shimmerMode": 0,
"shimmerPitchSemitones": 12,
"lfoDepth": 1,
"preDelayEnabled": true,
"pinDestination": [
0,
7,
2,
0
],
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"dryWet": 0.5,
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"diffusion": 0.61,
"shimmerLevel": 0.3,
"inputGain": 0.0,
"lfoFreq": 50,
"lfoExcursion": 20,
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"lfoExcursion2": 20
}
},
{
"className": "com.holycityaudio.SpinCAD.CADBlocks.OutputCADBlock",
"blockNum": 9,
"x": 293,
"y": 111,
"name": "Output",
"params": {
"mono": false,
"offset0": false,
"gain1": 1.0,
"gain2": 1.0
}
}
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{
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"fromPin": "Control Output 1",
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"toPin": "Control Input 1"
},
{
"fromBlockIndex": 1,
"fromPin": "Control Output 1",
"toBlockIndex": 5,
"toPin": "Control Input 1"
},
{
"fromBlockIndex": 5,
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"toPin": "Control Input"
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{
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"toBlockIndex": 7,
"toPin": "Control Input 1"
},
{
"fromBlockIndex": 0,
"fromPin": "Output 1",
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"toPin": "Audio In"
},
{
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"toPin": "Audio In 2"
},
{
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{
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{
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"fromPin": "Out L",
"toBlockIndex": 9,
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]
}
BrainGutz
Member
Also is this what you’d recommend to get me started with burning my own eeproms?
Cybercow
Well-known member
Yeah, that should get you there. You'll have to read the instructions for EEPROM burning/flashing, cuz I use a Spin-Semi FV-1 Development Board to flash mine. I only use my generic EEPROM flasher for reading/ripping. And note that this unit does not come with the software, but tells you where to find it.
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