MIAB pedals

temol

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It's not a wish list. I just wanted to post some interesting (in my opinion) Marshall in a Box type pedals that caught my eye.






You can post your list :)
 
Those are really interesting pedals. The Room #40 is the one that really caught my eye. I don’t have a whole lot of experience with MIAB pedals but, the few I have tried always seem to be lacking that top end sizzle and bite Marshall’s are famous for. I’ve always wondered if it was the lack of some type of presence control on the pedals I’ve given a test spin. Even plugging the pedal directly into the power amp of a Marshall, and using the amps presence control, just doesn’t quite cut it in my experience. I’m curious how the Room #40 would stack up against my JCM 800 clone.
 
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I've been building the Shred Master clone. Put it in the auditorium last night and it sounds pretty sweet, but I haven't played with it enough yet.
 
Some of the old Menatone Jfet ODs were pretty good - The King Of The Britains was good. But I suspect that what a lot of players think of as a Marshall sound is a long way removed from what playing a Marshall plexi is really like. I tried a Revival Drive and it was kinda meh. Still, some guys rave about 'em so what do I know??
 

There's a gutshot of a prototype of the LPD Eight7 on an archived reverb listing (attached just because the internet is fleeting!) and there are 1-2 (non technical) replies about it in a FSB thread on a Randall RG100ES in a Box pedal

A slightly green question but is there a decent overview of different Marshalls that isn't like a 20 minute long youtube video? Would love just a list of like "[model name]: [name of a hit song you've heard that uses it]"

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Another one. Too many knobs but quite interesting functions implemented.
I have the custom version of this, which adds 7 more controls (!) onto the front. This is not just another MIAB pedal. Through a good platform amp, especially if you “tune it to the amp” you can get a crazy range of classic amp sounds out of it, including the ability to finesse the amount of output transformer hysteresis — and it plays very much like the amps also, which is almost unique to me. It’s one of the few pedals I own that I consider a work of art. (Yes-there are a lot of knobs. I totally agree.)
 
There's a gutshot of a prototype of the LPD Eight7 on an archived reverb listing (attached just because the internet is fleeting!) and there are 1-2 (non technical) replies about it in a FSB thread on a Randall RG100ES in a Box pedal

A slightly green question but is there a decent overview of different Marshalls that isn't like a 20 minute long youtube video? Would love just a list of like "[model name]: [name of a hit song you've heard that uses it]"

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The problem is that early Marshalls can sound radically different from one example to the next. The spec changed, parts tolerances varied, tubes weren't biased as rigourously as we do today... Then you have the speaker differences. Some of the speaker cabs in the '70s had a very particular sound - they didn't "sing" so much as "grind", and a lot of players assume it was the amp responsible for that sound, but IME the speakers played a huge role. Listen to late '70s Malcolm Young and you might hear what I'm referring to.

I personally like the late '68 spec 50W 1987 models. Split cathodes (ie different caps and resistors for the first tube's triodes, giving a very distinct difference between normal and lead channels), EL34s, not too bright, and by mixing the channels you can get a very balanced, throaty sound. The 100W Super Leads were of course the legendary amps and sound incredible but they have a tougher low end and can sound a bit less sweet. Jeff Beck apparently prefers the 50W versions and that's one thing I agree with him about!

Somewhere around '72 (I think) Marshall increased the bright caps which made the sound quite harsh. By the mid '70s a lot of Marshalls sounded very hard rock but many have now been modded with master volumes being added and who knows what.

One of my benchmark tones is Clapton's sound on the Bluesbreakers album. While I'm not much of a Clapton fan the sound he got then was astonishing. That was of course an early 2x12 JTM45 in a huge cab. KT66s with a very 5F6-A circuit Marshall. Incredible sound, even though I prefer an EL34 Marshall.

I've been lucky enough to play through a few late '60s small box 50W plexis and once set-up they have all sounded classic and wonderful, and all sounded different from the other! Fortunately you can build a new amps which sounds much like these great old amps, and unfortunately they're too loud to use for gigs these days!
 
Is it fully analog pedal?
Yes. And I think that’s why it “plays” so well. I also didn’t mention build quality, which is something that probably everyone on this forum would be truly impressed with. It’s a very high admission price, but everything about it reeks quality. You would need to add a speaker IR setup if you wanted to use it for direct in, which I don’t have, and haven’t tried.

This was Origin’s second product categary, after making a few variations on the 1176 Compressor, where they basically just put all the original circuitry in it, modified to be all solid state. At this point they make several simpler amp in a box pedals, each modeled after a very specific amp, e.g. a Magnavox w bias tremelo. I have a feeling that one of those would be fine for my simple, lower gain desires, but I feel like a have my several settings on this monster that are dialed in just right.
 
Would be nice to see the schematics of all this additional features. Frankly, I don't need another preamp.. I'd like to add something extra to preamps I use.
 
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