Rat version of a palisades pedal

[jimilee]

Is there a palisades style pedal based on a rat instead of screamer? I’m very interested and was thinking about modifying a schematic, but I wanted to hear one if it exists.

 

[Betty Wont]

The deadendfx Double Cross is a twin rat with bells and whistles. It is currently out of stock due to the IC availability though.

 

[jimilee]

The deadendfx Double Cross is a twin rat with bells and whistles. It is currently out of stock due to the IC availability though.

Gotcha, more the Proco Deuce then. Not the same but close.

 

[thesmokingman]

should be fairly easy to accomplish ... need a rotary breakout board for clipping diodes (none, bat4x, 1n914, mosfet+bat4x, LED would give you all flavors ... couple more positions would cover the asym stuff like the rattler) ... bound to be someone selling that like fuzzdog or maybe an oshpark project ... probably same for input buffer on a stomp switch breakout board ... don't know if anyone's got the feedback loop diodes of the brat on their pcb but you could just mount those on a toggle ... what else do you need to switch?

 

[thesmokingman]

Isn't this kind what an expandora is? It's in the ballpark anyways

it would be much harder to isolate the expandora's envelope pieces into something you could switch in/out efficiently but more or less, yes

 

[mdc]

What features do you actually want?
There are lots of rat PCBs that give you rat2/turbo/dirty diodes on a switch, you could put two of those in a box with whatever switching arrangement you want and call it a day... king of rats basically

 

[jimilee]

should be fairly easy to accomplish ... need a rotary breakout board for clipping diodes ... bound to be someone selling that like fuzzdog or maybe an oshpark project ... probably same for input buffer on a stomp switch breakout board ... don't know if anyone's got the feedback loop diodes of the brat on their pcb but you could just mount those on a toggle ... what else do you need to switch?

That’s what I was planning on trying. I fabbed a brat (or has one fabbed) and put clipping diodes on a switch. I thought I did an on off on, but ended up with just an on on. Thought about putting feedback loop on a switch too, if I lay this one out.

What features do you actually want?
There are lots of rat PCBs that give you rat2/turbo/dirty diodes on a switch, you could put two of those in a box with whatever switching arrangement you want and call it a day... king of rats basically

I want all of those plus cmos plus no diode plus switchable feed back loop. Basically, I’d like to have more than three options in a pedal that no one has done yet. I have a rat with3 options and a ruetz mod option. The ruetz mod can be put on a potentiometer to blend in and out.

 

[thesmokingman]

 

[Paradox916]

I was kind of under the impression that’s what a parentheses/ life pedal is. Isn’t it? just a churched up rat?

 

[jimilee]

I was kind of under the impression that’s what a parentheses/ life pedal is. Isn’t it? just a churched up rat?

At its heart, I believe you are right. The drive portion of the schematic looks very much the same.

 

[almondcity]

Have you checked effects layouts? I thought he had a hot rod rat like this

 

[jimilee]

Have you checked effects layouts? I thought he had a hot rod rat like this

Not yet, thank you.

 

[thesmokingman]

while we're at it, probably should throw the feedback mod in there because noise

 

[jimilee]

while we're at it, probably should throw the feedback mod in there because noise

That’s the spirit!

 

[manfesto]

Not yet, thank you.

http://effectslayouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Dwyer-Distorter-build-doc.pdf

It's a rat with 4 clipping modes (3 hard, 1 soft), Ruetz Mod, and the ability to switch between two gain levels.

Honestly though, I'd just as soon do a Parentheses or Parentheses Mini - I don't really care for the Ruetz mod myself and I like the sound of the separate BS170 boost circuit and would take it over the second gain value (for like, a lead boost).