Rocktober Telescapades! 11-3-23 New pickups Installed

MichaelW

Well-known member
Ok, just a wee little dig at those who seem to dislike the term Rocktober...... :ROFLMAO: .

But the Tele-scapades is probably something you're quite used to seeing by now from me, heh.

So I thought I was done building Tele's, after the, whatever, 6 or so I've built the last couple years.

But my "secret enabler" whom I shall not name (but is typically in disguise as "Chris" during the day but in the evenings he dons his cape and becomes the @Guardians of the analog fighting against the tyranny of all things digital!) managed to convince me that I was lacking in a glaring way a particular flavor of Telecaster and once the notion got a hold in my noggin I haven't been able to let go of it.

I have zero experience with Seth Lover's "other" great pickup creation, the Wide Range Humbucker, that Fender poached him from Gibson to design when they were trying to get in on the harder hum bucking scene back in the early days of rock and roll.

I've been reading up quite a bit on it and it seems like MOST WRH's equipped guitars even from Fender, don't use real WRH's but rather it's a plain old humbucker inside thats glued into a WRH cover.

Although the end goal was the same, to make a more powerful, humbucking pickup, the fundamental construction of Seth Lover's PAF design and WRH design are quite different. Instead of having a bar magnet to magnetize the coils and slugs, on a WRH the slugs themselves are the magnets. So in that sense it's a lot more like a Fender Single coil. Or, two Fender single coils together. Hence, the sound of a WRH is sometimes referred to as "doubled up singles".

They are brighter, more articulate, have more clarity than a PAF. My "secret enabler" has convinced me that it's a sound that is sorely missing in my "tone library" of guitars.

SO, with that in mind, I've been keeping an eye out for an appropriate body from MJT to pop up on Ebay. I've really grown to love the use of pine for F-style guitars, particularly Tele's. I absolutely love my 50's Blackguard Tele that's got a pine body. I love the lightweight and resonance of it.

When a Tele Deluxe body from MJT popped up on ebay made out of pine and was extremely lightweight (about 2 1/2 lbs!) I jumped on it and managed to win the auction at a reasonable price. Light aging, beautiful nitro finish.

Just to reiterate my lack of experience with Tele Deluxes, there was something very wrong with this body (more on that in a bit) that I totally spaced out on.

But it's a cool body, traditional Fender 70's sunburst, with tortoise binding on the top, Very subtle. I love the grain on this body too.

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So if you haven't figured it out yet, for some reason they left out the route for the toggle switch.
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I went back and forth a bit with MJT about this, they insisted that this was supposed to be this way and that I could get a custom pickguard cut to locate the toggle in the control cavity. But first of all, there's no room, and second of all, I know of no Tele Deluxe with the toggle NOT on the upper horn.

So I decided to not waste any more time arguing with them, since I liked the body and decided to just route it out myself.

I used a Mini-Hum pickup route template which was the perfect size for an L-shaped Switchcraft toggle.
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And voila.....
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I already had a neck for it. Since the neck pocket on the Deluxe is cut for a Strat neck (with the big headstock) I couldn't use a Tele neck without modifying the heel.
I know that there are SOME people (ahem) than insist it's not correct without the big 70's CBS style headstock, but I just can't stand them. So this is getting a standard pre-CBS strat neck.

This is also the neck that I used in my fret leveling tutorial so it's pretty much ready to go.

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Continued in next post.....
 
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This neck was a cheap Chinese Ebay neck, and my track record with them has not been great. But so far it seems ok, I won't know until it get it strung up for a while to see how well it intonates and how well the frets are seated. But I figured I'd start with this neck.

The next big decision was pickups. The original design by Seth Lover was the use of CuNiFe magnets. For a long while CuNIFe became hard to get because no one was using them, and even Fender moved away from them. There's a lot of debate around how necessary CUNiFe magnets are in order to get the WRH sound. Most of the boutique use standard magnets that are tweaked to sound right. In the US the only winder that offers a CuNiFe option is Curtis Novak. And his pickups are not inexpensive.

So I was originally thinking I'd splurge and get the Lollar WRH's which are well regarded and sound pretty good in most of the shoot out video's I've seen. But they're also not cheap. Like $450 for a set.

The other option I was considering was the Fender Custom Shop CuNiFe WRH's. Which are even more expensive than the Lollars. I think they were $250 each. Pretty steep.

In my poking around looking for WRH winders, I came across an Australian winder called "Mad Love Pickups". I'd never heard of them before but the demo's sounded good and aside from Novak, he's the only other winder I've found that uses real CuNiFe magnets in his pickups.
And with the current exchange rate from USD to AUD, they were much more reasonably priced than the other options.

So I'm rolling the dice and ordered a set. He was a really cool guy, very communicative and had them wound and shipped within a couple of days of placing my order. They're winging their way to me now and hopefully will show up next week.

Other than that, I've got a Callaham Strat Hardtail bridge coming for this. And some other odds and ends and bits and bobs to get it built out.

I'm extremely stoked about this project and can't wait to hear what it sounds like!

Stay tuned.....more to come.
 
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Huzzzzzaaaahhhhh another Tele build!
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I've always liked WRHs (not that I've ever had any or would know what to do with them). However, a friend of mine also became enamoured with them and got some Creameries, mentioned in this post. (BTW, never have been able to find the right screws — too short, not the correct head, counter-stinkers etc...)

Looking forward to following this build!
 
Huzzzzzaaaahhhhh another Tele build!
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I've always liked WRHs (not that I've ever had any or would know what to do with them). However, a friend of mine also became enamoured with them and got some Creameries, mentioned in this post. (BTW, never have been able to find the right screws — too short, not the correct head, counter-stinkers etc...)

Looking forward to following this build!
I liked how the Creamery WRH's sounded in the demo's I've heard. But they'd be like over 300 GPB shipped to me from the UK.
(He does make them with CuNiFe magnets though, so that makes 3 winders I know of). But the REAL issue is that he has a 45 day lead time for building. That just won't abide by us that are short a pint (or more) of the virtue of patience... :ROFLMAO:
 
Earlier this summer I went ahead and ate the 300 GBP/two month wait for a set of these bad boys:


They are still in the box because I'm waiting for a neck to complete my build, but I'm dying to play them. Up until this point I've been fine with $60 secondhand DiMarzios, but I "needed" these to complete my "tonal palette" (or at least that's what I tell myself).
 
but I "needed" these to complete my "tonal palette" (or at least that's what I tell myself).
EXACTLY! We NEED it because it's like reaching in the pantry for a particular ingredient or spice and not having it to complete a meal...... :p

Would love to hear your Baby 71's when you get them in and let's compare notes! Are you building a Tele Deluxe as well?
 
It's actually a Mustang. I have two of them in the works, and they'll definitely get a build report here, but they're still a couple months away from done.

25.5" guitars don't really work for me, and I figured this was the best way to get some WRHBs into a short scale without it looking weird! Plus the demos sound great
 
It's actually a Mustang. I have two of them in the works, and they'll definitely get a build report here, but they're still a couple months away from done.

25.5" guitars don't really work for me, and I figured this was the best way to get some WRHBs into a short scale without it looking weird! Plus the demos sound great
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing them get done.
 
if you're curious to a/b cunife against alnico threaded magnet WRHBs, Ey Guitar has them for about $40/ea. They're generally well reviewed.
 
if you're curious to a/b cunife against alnico threaded magnet WRHBs, Ey Guitar has them for about $40/ea. They're generally well reviewed.
Wow, those are pretty attractively priced. I'd love to see some gut shots though, at that price range it makes me wonder if it's a true WRH or a "packaged" PAF....
 
From what little I've read, the ones with adjustable pole pieces are magnetic but maybe it varies batch to batch?
They have the steel base plates which might have more to do with the sound of the pickups than anything else. AFAIK the travis bean pickup design started as modified WRHBs, significantly increasing the size of the backing plate.
 
From what little I've read, the ones with adjustable pole pieces are magnetic but maybe it varies batch to batch?
They have the steel base plates which might have more to do with the sound of the pickups than anything else. AFAIK the travis bean pickup design started as modified WRHBs, significantly increasing the size of the backing plate.
The Creamery still makes Travis Bean specific WRH's. Makes me wonder how many Travis Beans are actually out there being played.
 
tempt you? I have the router templates for a meteora with twin HB's...:sneaky::sneaky:;)

Does look good(and I'm not fond of sun/tobacco bursts) and shows how easy it would be to mod a cheaper kit/build to be what ya want.
 
tempt you? I have the router templates for a meteora with twin HB's...:sneaky::sneaky:;)

Does look good(and I'm not fond of sun/tobacco bursts) and shows how easy it would be to mod a cheaper kit/build to be what ya want.
My original idea was to grab a Squier Classic Vibe 72 Tele Custom and start from there.
But knowing me, everything except the body would eventually be swapped out, so I figured what the heck, if I could find a nice body with a nitro finish with a good weight at a decent price, I'd save money in the long run heh.
 
The Creamery still makes Travis Bean specific WRH's. Makes me wonder how many Travis Beans are actually out there being played.
You definitely see them around - the bass player in my band has two old ones, even. I think the convergence of 90s noise band worship and deadheads has kept them pretty in demand.

The pickups are cool, I'm pretty sure EGC sells their version as aftermarket parts too.
 
Back in the very early '80s I bought an original Thinline Tele in poo-brown with the stock Wide-Range HBs. It was Aust$350. I thought I did well to clean it up and sell it for Aust$500! Maybe I should have hung onto it a bit longer... But honestly it wasn't a particularly good guitar. It sounded ok but a bit boring. Not very bright, not very interesting. Maybe if I was to play it today my reaction would be different? Quite possibly.

I'm certain that whatever you build will be a thousand times better, Michael!
 
Made a bit more progress today with some bits and bobs showing up in the mail.

My Callaham hardtail arrived. I forgot to snap a "before" pic so here's a stock pic of what it looks like.
Like most Callaham stuff, it's not much to look at, looks the same as a $20 Wilkinson hardtail, but the quality is in the materials, machined steel and the build. It feels like a superbly crafted hunk of steel in my hand.

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I think I've finally got my hardware aging to the point where I can get different degrees of relic'ing.
For this guitar I just wanted some patina on the brightwork, nothing too extreme.

I also aged a set of High Wood saddles that are going on this. I had an extra set of High Woods in vintage spacing (2 7/32) for a Gotoh Trem that I ultimately decided to use PRS style brass saddles on. All of my Strats have 2 1/16" spacing which I prefer. So this set of High Woods have been sitting around waiting for a home, which they now have:)

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While I was at it, I aged a batch of pickguard screws.
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Here's the aged string ferrules installed.
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Here's a couple pics of the tort binding that didn't show earlier in the thread.
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I'm liking how this is coming together.
Although I did order another neck from my favorite Reverb neck vendor "Guitar Flow".

So get this, turns out he also has an Ebay shop with the same items but considerably cheaper...(No Reverb tax I guess).
So the necks that he has listed for $139 on Reverb, he's selling on Ebay for $119.

Then, the same deal as Reverb, if you put one on your "watch list" he'll send you a discounted offer.

So I got 1 piece maple strat neck, the same one that I used on my 50's Strat for $109. It's just too stupid that I can get the quality Made in Japan neck that comes with frets leveled and crowned at that price. But I'm not complaining!!!

Here's his ebay shop. samsguitarshop

For now though, I have the roasted maple neck on it.
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Just waiting on the pickups at this point. I may string it up, do a set up on it and let it sit under tension while waiting on the pickups.

According to Australia Post the pickups have been handed off to the USPS and has left Melbourne.
So we'll see how long it takes to get here but it shouldn't be more than a week.

More to come.......
 
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