Strat-o-tomfoolery Part I - (Picture heavy) 6-11-23 Update

MichaelW

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While I'm waiting for some parts to finish my "last" Tele build, I turned my attention to a small project I've been wanting to do ever since I built my Red Strat.

Since I have a pretty killer 60's style strat, I decided to convert my 2 tone sunburst strat back to its 50's roots. It's been sort of a hybrid with a Pau Ferro neck, 3 ply mint pickguard,

I wanted to put a maple neck back on it. It all began with upgrading the Trem to a Wudtone tremolo......damn that @SillyOctpuss for turning my onto those. :ROFLMAO:

I bought just the vintage style bridge plate and screws since I had everything else. The body on this Strat began life as a Squeir Classic Vibe 50's strat.
It was back when they were made in China and still using alder bodies. I really like this body but it is the typical thinner import style.
Thus the standard Wudtone trem sustain block would not fit without protruding out that back of the body.

Here's a "before" pic....Fender neck, GFS trem with Highwood Saddles. Lollar Dirty Blonde pickup set. There was something really special about the way this guitar sounded and I was a bit hesitant to mess with it. Hmmm, I must have added the mini green 60's guard to it later.
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Starting with the Wudtone trem. I guess I forgot to snap some pics of the process but I did some aging on it because it comes only with a bright nickel finish.

Here's how it ended up. I can for sure that Nickel plating is MUCH easier to work with than chrome...It came out pretty nice. But the HighWood saddle set I had for this plate needed some work. It was a bit of a pain in the butt trying to scuff these with a Dremel. I shot a couple across the garage at least a few times. Luckily I was able to find them heh.

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They came out pretty nice with a bit of patina on them. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this method of aging hardware.
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So one issue I was afraid I would run into was that the new Wudtone bridge plate would not line up with the "shorty" brass sustain block that was on the previous trem. I could not find any other short block that would match the Wudtone. Sure enough the trem arm hole did not line up. I flirted with the idea of ordering the Wudtone brass block and cutting it down. But they're pretty pricy and only available from the UK.

I decided to mod the bridge plate to make it work with the block I had. So with a Dremel I elongated the trem arm hole.
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It's a bit ghetto but less noticeable once the arm is in.

I used the Xtotic Raw trem springs.
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Next was the neck. So I found an Ebay seller from China (actually several, but I think it's the same guy). He had 100% feedback and some nice "looking" necks at wholesale prices. Most of his necks are in the $40-50. So I decided to take a gamble and order one. I got a roasted flame maple neck with allegedly a satin nitro finish.

The neck is absolutely gorgeous.
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Profile is a standard Fender C with a bit of meat on it. .83 under the first fret. Thinner than my preference but pretty common for a strat. I can live with it. It's very comfortable. I did to the "acetone test" and the finish is most certainly not nitrocellulose. Likely some satin poly. But it's nicely done and quite thinly applied.

Doing the headstock here.
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And giving the back a coat of well buffed carnauba wax.
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I just picked up this neat gizmo from MusicNomad. A fret dressing shield. So you can do maple necks without taping.
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This where I got the first inkling of the nightmare that would be coming with the frets on this neck. This is a 25.5 scale mask and some of the frets did not quite fit completely in the generous sized fret hole.

Anyway I did a full fret level, dress and crown. The frets needed a LOT of work.
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Here they are nice and polished...and here I thought I was done......
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I didn't take any pics but after stringing it up the first time, the frets started moving on me. The neck itself is straight as an arrow.
But the frets were not glued in well. (if at all). I was getting buzzing all over the place AFTER my fret level once string tension was applied.

It was so bad that I did a partial re-level with the strings on from the 13th fret up. I need my necks to play clean with no fret outs with all the bending I do.

So after partially re-leveling TWICE I was still having issues, that's when I noticed a couple of the frets were moving. Duh...I should have checked that first. I had to glue and clamp a couple of the frets down with a clamp. At this point it's playing well, finally. I spent all afternoon on the bloody frets. Should have been an hour job tops. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my glue job is stable and no more frets start popping out.

Then came the next issue. Because as I suspected, the fret spacing was ever so slightly off, I had a hell of time intonating the bridge.
I'm at the absolute end of the saddle travel on a couple of strings. Again, it barely squeaked in but I'm not very happy with it.

Here she is all done. After a LOT of work. My fingers are raw from all the fret sanding.
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That's looks fantastic and I love how you fixed the trem arm problem. I genuinely never would have thought of that.

BTW I've bit the bullet and ordered a wudtone trem for my prs. I found a used one which hasn't seen much action. Seems guy ordered it for his prs but ended up not liking the guitar and sold it with the original trem on it. Should be here in a few days so I'll let you know what I think after I fit it.
 
Every time I read one of your threads I feel like I can hear my guitars weeping because they long to be given as much love and attention as yours :cry:. With that said your threads did inspire me to try my hand at doing some of my own fret work and touching parts of my guitars that I wouldn't have ordinarily messed with.
 
Every time I read one of your threads I feel like I can hear my guitars weeping because they long to be given as much love and attention as yours :cry:. With that said your threads did inspire me to try my hand at doing some of my own fret work and touching parts of my guitars that I wouldn't have ordinarily messed with.

Fretwork terrifies me, I don't mind polishing them but that's about it. I'm quite happy to work on most things but frets and nuts are just a step too far for me. They both require special tools and experience I don't have. At the moment I'd rather get an expert to do both.

I'd like to try one day but would like some training from someone who knows what the hell they're doing and some budget parts to mess around on and most likely mess up!
 
Fretwork terrifies me, I don't mind polishing them but that's about it. I'm quite happy to work on most things but frets and nuts are just a step too far for me. They both require special tools and experience I don't have. At the moment I'd rather get an expert to do both.

I'd like to try one day but would like some training from someone who knows what the hell they're doing and some budget parts to mess around on and most likely mess up!
Same! Every partscaster I’ve built has its last stop at a local luthier, because I have neither the tools nor the talent to mess with frets or nuts. His work is worth it though! A good neck setup really brings a build to life.
 
Well, I thought I would be clever and try to fix the neck issues I've had with this neck.
It's such a killer looking hunk of wood that it would be a shame to bag it.

As you may recall I had a hard time getting it intonated correctly because I've run out of adjustment and it's still a few cents off on the high E and B strings. I just can't stand the "slightly off" intonation.

Here you can see the saddles are as far forward as they can possible go without losing the threads on the adjustment screw and it's just about touching the mounting screw heads.

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I took some measurements and I think the fret placement themselves are fine, it's just that the heel is a bit too long.
I decided to take some length off the end of the neck to move the saddles back a bit.

First thing I needed to do was plug the original screw holes. Since I waxed the threads I needed to drill the holes out a bit for the glue to soak into the wood.
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I didn't have any dowels that were the right size, so I whittled down some pine scraps from a paint stir stick.
It's always a very satisfying activity for me to use my Bark River blade...

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Got the plugs fit and glued in.
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I used the neck shim as a template to mark off how much I needed to take off the heel. About 1/8th inch.
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I sharpened up my chisel and started hogging away the wood.........and I learned something all you woodworkers obviously already know.....maple is HARD AF to chisel!
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But I finally managed to get it to where I wanted and sanded with my Orbital sander then final shaping hand sanding.
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To seal the raw wood I decided to put a couple of coats of good old TruOil.
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Since 95% of this mod will be hidden I didn't get too crazy with getting it looking perfect. But it looks pretty good to me.
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This SHOULD do the trick, BUT......as I was inspecting the neck after sealing it, I noticed a few more loose frets, sigh.
At this point I'm calling this neck a TOTAL FAIL.

It needs to be refretted and I'm not set up to do refrets properly right now. So into the pile of spare parts it goes until I get over being so pissed off about this neck...heh.

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In the meantime, I have another neck that I'm going to use. It's also a Chinese neck off Ebay but a different seller. This was like $45 as I recall. It LOOKS good. Roasted Maple but not figured like the other one. Like the profile on this one a tad better as it's a little more full.

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Pretty humid here today, not a great day to be spraying lacquer. I'm hoping this blush will resolve or I'll be sanding it back tomorrow.....sigh.

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Keeping my fingers crossed that I don't have any unexpected issues with this neck too.
 
Turn the other neck into an art piece. I did that with an old tele body which looked cool but sounded completely dead as an instrument. It now serves a purpose by looking cool.
 
Ok change of plans....again....I decided not to take a chance with another Chinese Ebay neck. This new neck needs a full fret level and I'm just too pooped out to do it with all my guitar projects lately.

I got another MIJ neck from my Reverb source "Guitar Flow". Can't say enough good things about these necks he's selling. Quality is up there with Allparts MIJ necks. Frets are always leveled and crowned and only need a slight touch up and polish. And most importantly, the necks are on the beefier side, also very similar to the Allparts traditional necks. I'm getting more and more convinced that neck mass has a positive affect on tone, sustain, etc.

This one I got for this guitar is no exception. Absolutely love it.
I finished up the headstock this morning and slapped it on the guitar. My water slide decal has a bit of halo under the finish at certain angles. I think I need to find a different type of the label stock.

Got her strung up, cut the nut, so far it plays very cleanly at my preferred action, but we'll see if it moves at all after a week with some string tension on it.

Absolutely love this guitar again. This has a set of my all time favorite Strat pickups, the Lollar Dirty Blonde set. The neck and middle are vintage 50's output with a little bit more "girth" than his "Tweed" set. The bridge is a hotter "Lollar Special" that can have an almost P90-ish attack under gain. It sounded and played really nice this morning.

I think this saga has drawn to a close....(for now:))

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You can see the bridge saddles now intonate perfectly with a little bit of travel left.
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