Sunflower Cleanup Help

[Travis]

Hi, I´m start learning about fuzz pedals, I love the sound of some original fuzz faces I try, especially when I turn volume down.

I build the sunflower build and I´m trying with some transistors and different hfe values but I can´t get a good sparkle cleanup fuzz tone.

Some recommendation? Thanks

 

[Travis]

Have you tried the clean trimpot?

I will try it again, but with other fuzzes I usually like they cleanup with presence, this one sounds dark.

 

[Travis]

I´m not sure if NKT 275 magic is real

 

[JamieJ]

ElectroSmash - Fuzz Face Analysis

The Fuzz Face is a distortion guitar pedal designed in London by Arbitrer Electronics Ltd in the autumn of 1966. This analysis covers the first Arbitrer Fuzz Face model equipped with PNP germanium transistors from the first releases.

www.electrosmash.com

Part numbers don’t equal great fuzz tones. It’s all about how they are biased via the 33k or 8k2 resistors in the original.

Check this article out and test the bias points to see how well your transitiors are biased with your current build

 

[Mir9]

Have you tried the clean trimpot?

I put the "cleanup" trimpot as an external pot on mine, as it's so useful.

 

[Travis]

Thanks guys, I Will try It all!!

 

[Travis]

There are like 11 component in a fuzz face, how hard you gonna tune in to sound like Hendrix playing thru a crate amp and squier bullet strat

 

[thesmokingman]

things of note:
sunflower does use a charge pump and those aren't the same as battery power which isn't the same as carbon battery power (sunbeam brand from the dollar store are magic) wrt to playing the fuzz face in a more dynamic manner ... I took the Pepsi challenge on this one and it is one of the few mojo/unobtanium items that holds up

ge fuzz faces with medium or low gain transistors can be a little dark but are generally more dynamic than higher gain

I had more but this post has been interrupted many, many times by work ...

 

[JamieJ]

I had more but this post has been interrupted many, many times by work ...

I hate it when that happens!

 

[zgrav]

Don't forget that Hendrix was using a magic 9-volt battery.....

 

[zgrav]

things of note:
sunflower does use a charge pump and those aren't the same as battery power which isn't the same as carbon battery power (sunbeam brand from the dollar store are magic) wrt to playing the fuzz face in a more dynamic manner ... I took the Pepsi challenge on this one and it is one of the few mojo/unobtanium items that holds up

ge fuzz faces with medium or low gain transistors can be a little dark but are generally more dynamic than higher gain

I had more but this post has been interrupted many, many times by work ...

OK --- maybe not a MAGIC battery -- but more or less the same point.

 

[Coda]

Don't forget that Hendrix was using a magic 9-volt battery.....

Nah…you’re thinking of Bob Dylan’s Grandma. Hendrix powered his Fuzz Face with Gypsies, sun, and rainbows…an a little plutonium Roger Mayer stole from the Royal Navy…

 

[Travis]

I finally solved it.

All down clean and swap transistors make it sound amazing

 

[Travis]

I use russian GT307

 

[Sturdag Lagernathy]

I guess I'm of the very few who prefer the "scratchiness" of the silicon version.. BC108..

 

[jeffwhitfield]

I use two different transistors for my Sunflower: MP20A and GT402B. Following typical Fuzz Face requirements, the MP20A is within the 80 hFE range and the GT402B is within the 110-120 hFE range. Ends up sounding pretty damn good. So don't be afraid to use different transistors to get different results.