Feedback pedals on the horizon?

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comradehoser

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Does anyone know if there is development in the works for an improved feedback pedal out there, or is the Freqout pretty much the pinnacle for the foreseeable future?
 
Will it be another variant of the DF-2, or something else?

I have a Boss FB-2 that I grabbed on a whim when they were blowing them out cheap/discontinuing them. It’s a really fun one, as it turns out. Takes a little practice though, to (somewhat) control the chaos.

Haven’t tried the Freqout yet, but if I see a used one cheap enough, I’ll probably talk myself into it…;)

Excited at the prospect of more stuff in the pretty-niche feedbacker category, especially something DIY!
 
jcpst said:
Huh, that’s interesting.

The pinnacle is standing near a loud amp, and it’s the only reason I could never go ampless.
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True, but maybe now, you can, just like an overdrive pedal can help you get overdriven amp tones without enduring ear damage.

Can't speak on feedbacker pedals in general, but the Freqout gives you pretty good control over several parameters at all volumes.
 
comradehoser said:
True, but maybe now, you can, just like an overdrive pedal can help you get overdriven amp tones without enduring ear damage.

Can't speak on feedbacker pedals in general, but the Freqout gives you pretty good control over several parameters at all volumes.
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I’m sorry. I’d like to apologize. This is a thread about feedback pedals. My comment kind of sucked. It was off-topic and dismissive.

I checked out Andy’s demo of the Freqout… that does sound pretty cool- it does get feedback-like tones.

But to just touch on the volume/ear damage: hearing protection ftw. Whether that’s earplugs or in-ear monitors. Also, it doesn’t always take as much volume as people think. Semi-hollow, chambered guitars, or partially microphonic pickups can get great feedback tones on small amps.
 
jcpst said:
I’m sorry. I’d like to apologize. This is a thread about feedback pedals. My comment kind of sucked. It was off-topic and dismissive.

I checked out Andy’s demo of the Freqout… that does sound pretty cool- it does get feedback-like tones.

But to just touch on the volume/ear damage: hearing protection ftw. Whether that’s earplugs or in-ear monitors. Also, it doesn’t always take as much volume as people think. Semi-hollow, chambered guitars, or partially microphonic pickups can get great feedback tones on small amps.
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Takes a big person to own up to mistakes on the internet. I salute you.

Real feedback IS a glorious thing too!
 
jcpst said:
I’m sorry. I’d like to apologize. This is a thread about feedback pedals. My comment kind of sucked. It was off-topic and dismissive.

I checked out Andy’s demo of the Freqout… that does sound pretty cool- it does get feedback-like tones.

But to just touch on the volume/ear damage: hearing protection ftw. Whether that’s earplugs or in-ear monitors. Also, it doesn’t always take as much volume as people think. Semi-hollow, chambered guitars, or partially microphonic pickups can get great feedback tones on small amps.
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FWIW I've heard that it's possible to get decent sounding feedback at very low volumes for recording, if you put the monitor on a table and your guitar right next to it.

But a pedal would still be handy. I'm in the same "cheap Freqout used" camp, but interested in any advancements. There's a decent plugin out there too, but it's a hassle to use for anything else than recorded stuff, and a bit expensive.
 
I paid full price for a Freqout like a full on dumbass... but it was worth it.... no regrets (you wont regret putting it on your sweetwater card either). I always loved ebow sounds but despised the fragility. I broke two ebows as young guitar player and I will never forget the crusshhing disappointments of having that hard earned money go to waste from a small drop. I am definitely onboard with any incoming feedback projects
 
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jcpst said:
I’m sorry. I’d like to apologize. This is a thread about feedback pedals. My comment kind of sucked. It was off-topic and dismissive.

I checked out Andy’s demo of the Freqout… that does sound pretty cool- it does get feedback-like tones.

But to just touch on the volume/ear damage: hearing protection ftw. Whether that’s earplugs or in-ear monitors. Also, it doesn’t always take as much volume as people think. Semi-hollow, chambered guitars, or partially microphonic pickups can get great feedback tones on small amps.
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I took nary an offense at all. Plenty of guitarists think pedals in general are useless vs. tube amps, and that's a fine opinion because that's their thing. My good friend cannot stand fuzz. For others, what's the point of compressors? I would hate for anybody to second guess themselves for having an opinion, I mean, isn't that what the Internet is largely for?

As a long time drummer, I intimately appreciate the need for ear protection; for me, though, it's mostly about not causing volume issues for myself with my family, who just barely tolerate my spending excessive amounts of time noodling with guitars and pedals. And, I'm also just curious about what kind of expression and control I can get with the parameters that can be worked into a pedal as opposed to an amp/guitar loop.
 
Also curious how the Freqout does what it does and how to improve it .

I know it's algorithms, but what principles, what is the chip and circuit?

What does it do that the feedbacker can't, or do differently?
 
Anyone have both an FB-2 and a Freqout, and can comment on sound similarities, differences?

i.e. Do we need both?! ;)

And are they using similar techniques to achieve their sounds?
 
That would be bitchin' combo pedal, pricklyrobot, an FB-2 & Freqout together in one enclosure, both on.

Which should come first though? Would an order switcher be of any benefit?
 
The first link explains how the feedbacker uses PLL. The second link (to the gear page) actually provides the patent language to the Freqout and has contributions from the pedal designers. Apparently the algorithm was designed by fellow Canucks as a reverse function noise canceller.
 
Them Canuckians be smart fellers.
Reminds me of the Bass Whammy, designed and made in Canada by IVL Technologies.




The critique on the second link, that the Freqout's feedback just suddenly drops out...

Run it through a Deverblay with long tails and then have both in a loop with a momentary footswitch... Hmmm...
 
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