Any apps to load schematic for AI analysis?
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There’s no app that does that.
I’ve found LLMs to be fairly unreliable when it comes to reading schematics from an image. Lots of mistakes. Also, even it does read it accurately, it still gets a lot wrong about general electronics in the context of guitar pedal circuits.
I have been able to generate schematics by having the LLM create KiCad projects. They are usually a mess visually, but you can straighten the lines out after opening it. I mention this because I imagine one could get better schematic results by having it read KiCad files. They are basically code, and these tools have been optimized for developers working with code. But that still doesn’t solve the problem of the LLM making mistakes with basic electronics questions.
For the core of what you want, it sounds like LTspice would be the tool to use.
So if you solved the reliability issue with understanding schematics, you could build a multi-agent flow with skills for KiCad and LTspice, with an integration layer between the two.
I’ve found LLMs to be fairly unreliable when it comes to reading schematics from an image. Lots of mistakes. Also, even it does read it accurately, it still gets a lot wrong about general electronics in the context of guitar pedal circuits.
I have been able to generate schematics by having the LLM create KiCad projects. They are usually a mess visually, but you can straighten the lines out after opening it. I mention this because I imagine one could get better schematic results by having it read KiCad files. They are basically code, and these tools have been optimized for developers working with code. But that still doesn’t solve the problem of the LLM making mistakes with basic electronics questions.
For the core of what you want, it sounds like LTspice would be the tool to use.
So if you solved the reliability issue with understanding schematics, you could build a multi-agent flow with skills for KiCad and LTspice, with an integration layer between the two.
falco_femoralis
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You can always go old school and map out a schematic on a breadboard and audio probe that. Hell, maybe you'd even learn something which might set you on track to understand the schematic. Then you wouldn't need AI to do the work for you!
vigilante398
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If your goal is to find out what a circuit sounds like, especially probing multiple places, AI is going to be zero help. This really is the sort of thing where breadboards are the best tool for the job.
It is LTspice that I am also considering. Found another one called Flux that is claimed to be able to import schematic images. But still unsuccessful at the moment. Not sure if my browser is outdated or I am doing something wrong. It interprets all parts correctly, but the image it displays is a mess. Could not get to the point to confirm the wiring though. The tiral version is limited, and your free credits end before you could finish the import by verifying the wiring.
Fama
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That sounds like what we usually call "a scam".
Well, it could just be a shitty product, but drawing the line between the two is not always easy.
Tbh I simulated a tonestack from a pedal in LTSpice and it was faster and easier than I expected, and it felt like I would get a lot faster if I did it more. There's always a balance you should do with looking for easier ways to do something or just doing it the hard way, but in this case I feel like you would save the most time if you just put the schematic into LTspice yourself. Maybe in the future AI tools are the better option, but I don't think we're quite there yet.
vigilante398
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Based on my experience, that's par for the course for AI tools. I've seen some AI tools give accurate technical explanations of circuits, but I've never seen an AI-generated schematic that is anywhere near coherent.
vigilante398
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And it can do that pretty well, but ask it to draw you a schematic and it will give you garbage.
jimilee
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Oh yeah, the boys at Rev proved that one too.
jimilee
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I like this for designing. For getting info about the parts of a circuit, it’s super helpful for us bass players.
