Depressed when it doesn’t work

Olivier7960

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Succeeded with a few builds …. Once in a while one doesn’t work …. No sound at all or a terrible hiss …. I’ve been super anal about my soldering work, doing it all with a 4X magnifying glass .. everything looks fine but it doesn’t work !!!! I am resilient so I keep on soldering but this feeling of despair … anyway …. Anybody going through this ?
 
We have all been there and have had failed builds or ones that need some trouble shooting. If your frustrated walk away from it and come back but don't give up. Most issues are minor and every mistake is a learning experience. Learning what not to do is just as Important as knowing what to do.

This.

We joke quite a bit about my Scrambler builds around here but in the end what was wrong with my 2nd was a 4.7M in place of a 4.7k.

When i went back to check my order history at Tayda, I realized I've never ordered 4.7M resistors from them. I was mistakenly given a bag of 4.7M from Tayda with a 4.7k label.

What I learned from this experience is to use your gut. I was not getting voltage to a key part of the circuit NOT through any error in wiring or powering it, but because the wrong component was there.

What I also learned training as an engineer was that most of what all engineers do is troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is a skill in itself.
 
and to keep it 100 ... I learned my lesson early thanks to mammoth electronics' infamously janky order fulfillment errors ... there's nothing like losing business because your supplier is manned by Okies
 
you didn't learn the lesson of measuring the parts you work with? You've seen my bench ... the multimeter isn't on the table for instagram fluke flexing

As a general rule, yes.

This was tricking because I had used a few other 4.7k that same day. Measured one and rolled with it.
 
Succeeded with a few builds …. Once in a while one doesn’t work …. No sound at all or a terrible hiss …. I’ve been super anal about my soldering work, doing it all with a 4X magnifying glass .. everything looks fine but it doesn’t work !!!! I am resilient so I keep on soldering but this feeling of despair … anyway …. Anybody going through this ?
Every failure is a learning opportunity. I'd like to know more about what you're doing when you've discovered that you failed.
 
I spent a fair amount of my time on this forum reading the Troubleshooting threads, especially ones that are solved so I learned what NOT to do. Also, there are some very experienced builders on here. Taking mental notes of what questions they ask can help you troubleshoot your own builds in the future (or help you build it better the first time). Stick with it and good luck!
 
Learning how to troubleshoot will pay for itself in dividends. It's also the most frustrating part of the build process. Once you find the culprit you will kick yourself at how silly of a mistake you made and you will most likely not make it again. I'm speaking in generalities of course, but it's still very true. Here is a link on how to troubleshoot. Be patient; that's the key. Good luck. If all else fails start a new thread here, but give it your best shot first. We may see things you can't and vice versa. Don't forget to post pics of both sides of the board.

 
I spent a fair amount of my time on this forum reading the Troubleshooting threads, especially ones that are solved so I learned what NOT to do. Also, there are some very experienced builders on here. Taking mental notes of what questions they ask can help you troubleshoot your own builds in the future (or help you build it better the first time). Stick with it and good luck!
I often asked myself "what replies would I get if I posted a troubleshooting thread?" And then just did those things. Visual inspection, check component values, signal and power tracing with continuity check, and audio probing. It helped me get a better understanding of how things worked AND resolved my issues. I stopped viewing message boards as a place to seek help but rather a place to share
 
This.

We joke quite a bit about my Scrambler builds around here but in the end what was wrong with my 2nd was a 4.7M in place of a 4.7k.

When i went back to check my order history at Tayda, I realized I've never ordered 4.7M resistors from them. I was mistakenly given a bag of 4.7M from Tayda with a 4.7k label.

What I learned from this experience is to use your gut. I was not getting voltage to a key part of the circuit NOT through any error in wiring or powering it, but because the wrong component was there.

What I also learned training as an engineer was that most of what all engineers do is troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is a skill in itself.
OMG now I have to test all my components all the time!
 
Failure never goes away. I'll have times when I get a dozen in a row with no problems, then I'll have a batch of everything dead and nothing works. But you definitely learn what to look for, how to fix it, and how to make sure it doesn't happen the next time around.
 
All part of the game

I just scream abuse at myself my neighbours must think I'm a complete lunatic when they hear me shouting:

Its only a +×@#$€ fuzz work you absolute @!+£¥%& whilst kicking a cupboard or slapping myself very roughly

It's usually the most basic one's that don't work with me
 
My last failure was a stray single strand of wire connecting the + directly to the -. Made me consider using solid wire for hookup from now on.

But more depressing for me is when I finally fix it, it starts working, and I think, “this pedal sucks. I think I hate this pedal.”
 
When I first started building stuff on vero board in 2019 or 2020, I picked a Devi Ever fuzz because it seemed pretty simple due to the low parts count. I did everything meticulously and then it didn't work. My LED lit up when the I hit the stomp switch, but I had no audio unless it was bypassed. I reflowed every solder connection, double checked the cuts, made sure I didn't bridge any traces, the whole nine yards. I was ready to hurl the thing into the wall or the trash, I couldn't decide which. Somehow I figured out that I was orientating my stomp switch 90 degrees sideways compared to the way the wiring diagram showed. Of course this diagram didn't show which was the pins on the switch were running so I had no way of knowing until I noticed someone else's vero build had the switch turned.

One of the big muffs I built last year (maybe the Hoof clone) worked when I finished, but the volume output wasn't even unity when maxed out. Turned out that the collector resistor in q4 (supposed to be 10k) got a 1k in it's place. Once I swapped it out everything was copacetic.

The thing I've learned in my case is that it's almost always something simple, but once I'm irritated things don't stand out as easily lol. I take a break, sometimes don't even mess with it for a day or more. Hell, I had a bluesbreaker clone that sat in the drawer for six months because I fucked up the tone pot cramming it into the enclosure. That's how I learned to solder the components on the board, screw the pots into the enclosure, then lay the board onto the pot legs to solder that stuff waaaay more easily. It's so obvious now, but someone it didn't even occur to me.
 
Thank you all for the support ! Some good thoughts in there. I will definitely look into troubleshooting. I will look at the links since I don’t really know what to do (apart from the obvious mistakes) my unsuccessful build was the oasis …. Really took my time with it …. But no sound at all … mmmm ….. I resisted the urge to throw it at the wall so it’s still there … time to give it a thorough inspection
 
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