Dip Switch orientation

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Stupid question but that my first time solder a dip switch. Should the on position match the square white painted side ?

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I meant to comment here earlier but forgot: I'm pretty sure that DIP switches are really, really dumb switches. They work in either direction because all they're doing is either connecting (on) or disconnecting (off). Doesn't matter which side ON is on because that side is always ON and the other side is always OFF.

As to why PCB graphics make them look like they have a direction: I don't know. My guess is that's just the standard way of picturing DIP switches.

EDIT: Knowing which one is 1 and which is 2 may be useful, though. Which means, I suppose, knowing what the switches are actually connecting when ON is on.
 
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I meant to comment here earlier but forgot: I'm pretty sure that DIP switches are really, really dumb switches. They work in either direction because all they're doing is either connecting (on) or disconnecting (off). Doesn't matter which side ON is on because that side is always ON and the other side is always OFF.

As to why PCB graphics make them look like they have a direction: I don't know. My guess is that's just the standard way of picturing DIP switches.
Yes but regardless of if they work or not. The circuit is built to turn on asymmetrical and symmetric clipping. It would be nice to have the label matching. Knowing when it’s on or off could be valuable.
 
Yes but regardless of if they work or not. The circuit is built to turn on asymmetrical and symmetric clipping. It would be nice to have the label matching. Knowing when it’s on or off could be valuable.
As I said, when it's set to ON the circuit is connected, whichever way the switch is installed.
 
As I said, when it's set to ON the circuit is connected, whichever way the switch is installed.
LMAO, noooooow I get it… they‘re on/off so who cares ! The only difference be will sw1 vs sw2… sorry I’m an idiot. For some reason my brain was thinking on/on…. Sooooowwwwy !

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LMAO, noooooow I get it… they‘re on/off so who cares ! The only difference be will sw1 vs sw2… sorry I’m an idiot. For some reason my brain was thinking on/on…. Sooooowwwwy !
No need for apology. And knowing what the numbers refer to also matters, so your question is still valid. I have the impression that the numbers go over the white dots, so the opposite way to your pic. But I'm no expert, and I'm failing to find anything conclusive via Google.

EDIT: This thread says white square = off, and a search of images of Paragons and Paragon Minis shows that most people are installing their DIP switches that way. If you look at the attached Paragon PCB, the white squares are at the bottom, which implies that the numbers go at the bottom and that up is ON - otherwise they'd be upside down.

Now, as stated they'll work correctly either way, ON is always ON - but setting 2 is actually setting 1 and vice versa, if the switch is mounted the opposite way.
 

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No need for apology. And knowing what the numbers refer to also matters, so your question is still valid. I have the impression that the numbers go over the white dots, so the opposite way to your pic. But I'm no expert, and I'm failing to find anything conclusive via Google.

EDIT: This thread says white square = off, and a search of images of Paragons and Paragon Minis shows that most people are installing their DIP switches that way. If you look at the attached Paragon PCB, the white squares are at the bottom, which implies that the numbers go at the bottom and that up is ON - otherwise they'd be upside down.

Now, as stated they'll work correctly either way, ON is always ON - but setting 2 is actually setting 1 and vice versa, if the switch is mounted the opposite way.
That’s ok, if I look at schematic, base on how I installed the switch would you agree that 1 is Asym and 2 is Lift ?

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That’s ok, if I look at schematic, base on how I installed the switch would you agree that 1 is Asym and 2 is Lift ?
Assuming the schematic and PCB are consistent, then I would agree. But to know for sure, use a continuity checker to see whats connected to what on the PCB.

Or just use your ears to verify.
 
Assuming the schematic and PCB are consistent, then I would agree. But to know for sure, use a continuity checker to see whats connected to what on the PCB.

Or just use your ears to verify.
I guess I’ll be able to spot it by ear. If I get this right the lift switch turns off the clipping completely, so that should be obvious. Which leaves me with the other switch turning on asymmetric clipping. Unless I don’t understand what lift does….

Can’t test any of this yet, that for a dual build Frost/Rain Coat, and the plan is to build the RainCoat tomorrow.
 
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From the schematic, it appears to have 4 possible settings:
  1. symmetrical with 2 diodes clipping each way (lift closed, asym open)
  2. asymmetrical with 2 diodes one way and 1 the other (both closed)
  3. more asymmetrical with 3 diodes one way and 1 the other (lift open, asym closed)
  4. lift (no clipping) (both open)
 
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With "Lift" open and "Asym" closed you actually have one diode in one direction and three diodes in the other.
 
From the schematic, it appears to have 4 possible settings:
  1. symmetrical with 2 diodes clipping each way (lift closed, asym open)
  2. asymmetrical with 2 diodes one way and 1 the other (both closed)
  3. more asymmetrical with 3 diodes one way and 1 the other (lift open, asym closed)
  4. lift (no clipping) (both open)
And I would guess open is “on” right ?
 
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