Frantone The Sweet?

You might have a better chance of getting this upvoted if you included some more information about it, such as why somebody might want to build this over one of the other dozens of Muff derivatives — otherwise it's JAM *Just another Muff.

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Looks to me like you could build this on just about any Muff board by McGyvering the tone section to come after the recovery section.

Nonetheless, personally, I'd like to see The Sweet turned into a PCB, because I'd like to build a Bass Sweet without the circuit wrangling on a stock Muff board and also don't want to resort to an etch, perf or vero.

(Bass Sweet has same layout but different component values.)
 
Ironically this one is doing better than most of my suggestions... *lol*

That being said, the circuit is a little different, like you said, and I like the germanium base... that being said, I really wish I knew what that oddball transistor in it is...
 
I'm all for doing it, but there's apparently some mystery behind the FS25444 transistor at the output.

What are the plans for that?
 
I don't think anyone has found anything on the FS25444 - it is absolutely unique to this pedal (or is a remarked something else).

Tagboard effects suggests it looks like the 2N5133 or ME4003 as it is in the old TO106 case style - so I was thinking about using NOS 2N5133

Effects Layouts suggests rounding up the usual suspects in place of the FS (whatever the heck): 2N5088, MPSA18, BC549C, etc.
 
Bumping an old thread for more Frantone goodness. Reading through the FSB post above it looks like folks may have found a sweet (sorry, pun intended) spot with a low-gain NPN option in Q4. The comments mentioned a 2N3563 at ~70 hfe but maybe a 2N3903 would be a good alternative?
I'll definitely give that a try... I've got another etched board lying around... and something in the pipeline as well... :D
 
I don't think anyone has found anything on the FS25444 - it is absolutely unique to this pedal (or is a remarked something else).

Tagboard effects suggests it looks like the 2N5133 or ME4003 as it is in the old TO106 case style - so I was thinking about using NOS 2N5133

Effects Layouts suggests rounding up the usual suspects in place of the FS (whatever the heck): 2N5088, MPSA18, BC549C, etc.
NTE2544? TO126 NPN Darlington.
Material of Transistor: Si
Polarity: NPN
Maximum Collector Power Dissipation (Pc): 10 W
Maximum Collector-Base Voltage |Vcb|: 120 V
Maximum Collector-Emitter Voltage |Vce|: 120 V
Maximum Emitter-Base Voltage |Veb|: 6 V
Maximum Collector Current |Ic max|: 1.5 A
Forward Current Transfer Ratio (hFE), MIN: 1000
Noise Figure, dB: -
Package: TO126
 
NTE2544? TO126 NPN Darlington.
Material of Transistor: Si
Polarity: NPN
Maximum Collector Power Dissipation (Pc): 10 W
Maximum Collector-Base Voltage |Vcb|: 120 V
Maximum Collector-Emitter Voltage |Vce|: 120 V
Maximum Emitter-Base Voltage |Veb|: 6 V
Maximum Collector Current |Ic max|: 1.5 A
Forward Current Transfer Ratio (hFE), MIN: 1000
Noise Figure, dB: -
Package: TO126
Dunno - it might be a rebadged NTE...

Only reference to an FS25444 transistor I've seen is on a couple of aviation sites, but there was no data sheet.
 
Dunno - it might be a rebadged NTE...

Only reference to an FS25444 transistor I've seen is on a couple of aviation sites, but there was no data sheet.
More likely that the NTE is a rebadged FS ;)
Doubtful, but maybe. The NTE2544 has an hfe of 1k-2k! Could push a 8 inch speaker with that thing :)
I doubt it matters much. It's just makeup gain for the tone stack anyway.
 
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