J201 Measurements

[chongmagic]

I have some J201s that I have and want to measure before I use them in a build. I took some screenshots of one that I measured.

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From what I have read and looking at the datasheet, these should have a IDSS should be between 0.2 to 1mA and I am getting 1.33mA on this. I am guessing this is already a bad sign?

The VGs (off) seems and VGS (on) seem ok. What are the key measurements I should be looking at to see whether or not the JFET is worth using?

 

[tcpoint]

They look off. The runoffgroove article on the Fetzer valve is an interesting read. Right at the end they show some measurements of various jfets (incl the J201).

Here's the Link.

 

[chongmagic]

They look off. The runoffgroove article on the Fetzer valve is an interesting read. Right at the end they show some measurements of various jfets (incl the J201).

Here's the Link.

Yeah I think they are not worth using. I ordered some SMD J201s for the sake of having more consistency as well.

 

[tcpoint]

I finally went to smd.

 

[Chuck D. Bones]

Maybe try measuring Idss using the ghetto technique: 9V power supply and a 1K resistor. See if that measurement validates the DCA75's measurement. In any event, I would not scrap a JFET for having Idss 0.33mA higher than spec. The Vp and yfs numbers are good. I expect these would work fine in most, if not all pedals.

 

[music6000]

This is what I Knocked up & use for Idss, It has not let me down.
You get a measurement with DMM & X by 10 = ma.
I didn't use it when building the M800 & it was average. When I pulled them out, I used this and they were all out of spec.
I replaced with Siliconix J201's with white Dot that Idss were 0.55 to 0.65 ma on this device.
Learned my Lesson with J201's!

 

[music6000]

Here it Is
Resistor & Links on Underside :

 

[music6000]

I see Mouser has around 1500 Interfet J201's @ $5.50 US each.

 

[Idroj]

Here it Is
Resistor & Links on Underside :
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Hi, I am trying to measure Vp and Idss on some J201s and have never done this before. Could you please explain the absolute simplest way to get those readings? I can't read schematics yet... I'm very new at this... Thanks!

 

[temol]

You have to learn how to read schematics before you can use absilute simplest way .
I've already posted a link in your M800 thread. DMM, battery.
http://www.runoffgroove.com/fetzervalve.html (11. Measurement of Vp and Idss)

jFET Characterization Technique using only 9v Battery and DMM - viva Analog

As mentioned in my other post about accurately characterizing a large lot of (TO-92 package) 2n5457 transistors, jFET device characteristics are primarily defined by two numerical constants: the Idss current, and the Vgs(off) voltage (sometimes referred to also as Vp).…Read more ›

viva-analog.com

 

[psb962]

You have to learn how to read schematics before you can use absilute simplest way .
I've already posted a link in your M800 thread. DMM, battery.
http://www.runoffgroove.com/fetzervalve.html (11. Measurement of Vp and Idss)

jFET Characterization Technique using only 9v Battery and DMM - viva Analog

As mentioned in my other post about accurately characterizing a large lot of (TO-92 package) 2n5457 transistors, jFET device characteristics are primarily defined by two numerical constants: the Idss current, and the Vgs(off) voltage (sometimes referred to also as Vp).…Read more ›

viva-analog.com

Thanks for that link. My component tester was giving me readings of 100-300uA for my 8 SMD J201s so I didnt trust it. I built that circuit and tested for idss and they were 300-670uA, so all good.

Note that for idss testing only, all you need is a 9v battery, 100R resistor, and a multimeter. The other resistor is out of circuit for idss and only needed for Vp.

 

[Chuck D. Bones]

If you're measuring J201, then the resistor can be 1K.